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10-06-2019, 09:45 AM

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I just don’t have the knowledge about plywood to debate either way. The weather here is probably close to where you live, Hot and humid. I’m looking forward to some cooler weather.
Plywood. I'm assuming Diamond uses the best grade materials. Have not read or heard of problems due to weather. Pool rooms have them and they get played on for hours daily/nightly. Must be a reason why they are so popular. They sit in a cold or hot evironment day and night for years with no problems. Don't be too concerned. I'm more concerned with the look and it's growing on me.





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Plywood. I'm assuming Diamond uses the best grade materials. Have not read or heard of problems due to weather. Pool rooms have them and they get played on for hours daily/nightly. Must be a reason why they are so popular. They sit in a cold or hot evironment day and night for years with no problems. Don't be too concerned. I'm more concerned with the look and it's growing on me.
Itís growing on me too. I keep looking at pictures online. Itís pool table porn.
  
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to be Fair, here are both in clients homes!
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10-06-2019, 10:10 AM

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They both look great to me. I would choose the gc but donít have the extra it cost.
  
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10-06-2019, 10:47 AM

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I just donít have the knowledge about plywood to debate either way. The weather here is probably close to where you live, Hot and humid. Iím looking forward to some cooler weather.
How are the pedestals on your Gold Crown holding up? The end caps are solid maple but they are wrapped in plywood and I believe some of the interior construction may be plywood.


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10-06-2019, 11:12 AM

UPDATE: I just opened a brand new set of Diamond Professional legs for a table I am restoring, the originals got damaged beyond use, new was the only route. The new ones are plywood and not HDF!! Next is the frame? I cannot imagine it would cost that much more. I think it should be an option if the price was reasonable!!!
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How are the pedestals on your Gold Crown holding up? The end caps are solid maple but they are wrapped in plywood and I believe some of the interior construction may be plywood.
From my untrained eyes, they appear good. Then again, untrained.
  
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UPDATE: I just opened a brand new set of Diamond Professional legs for a table I am restoring, the originals got damaged beyond use, new was the only route. The new ones are plywood and not HDF!! Next is the frame? I cannot imagine it would cost that much more. I think it should be an option if the price was reasonable!!!
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10-06-2019, 11:24 AM

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From my untrained eyes, they appear good. Then again, untrained.
Place a mirror underneath and see if they are delaminating. My money is on not a chance.


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Place a mirror underneath and see if they are delaminating. My money is on not a chance.
Nothing under, on the sides or on top is delaminating. There are some bumps and bruises from abuse.
  
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For my lack of knowledge, I will take your word for it. I always thought that plywood/fiberboard and moisture donít mix. I guess even solid wood and moisture donít mix well either. If I lived in Arizona or Las Vegas, I wouldnít be concerned but I live on the gulf coast.
The frame is TimberStrandLSL. They build houses from the same stuff. Strong as steel. The planks under the slate are marine-grade plywood. 3/4" thick using waterproof adhesive. They are built like tanks. You'll never have an issue UNLESS it sits outside. Humidity will have zero effect on it.
  
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The frame is TimberStrandLSL. They build houses from the same stuff. Strong as steel. The planks under the slate are marine-grade plywood. 3/4" thick using waterproof adhesive. They are built like tanks. You'll never have an issue UNLESS it sits outside. Humidity will have zero effect on it.

The older style Diamond Pro's did not have the leveling system in them. So you had to screw down the slates and the holes definitely stripped out much faster for sure. New ones dont have that problem!


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The older style Diamond Pro's did not have the leveling system in them. So you had to screw down the slates and the holes definitely stripped out much faster for sure. New ones dont have that problem!


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The slate screws on the Diamond Pros ALL screw into the poplar wood attached to the timberstrand, not the timberstrand itself, so check your facts.
  
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The slate screws on the Diamond Pros ALL screw into the poplar wood attached to the timberstrand, not the timberstrand itself, so check your facts.
Yup and what is it an inch wide?

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