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01-04-2020, 11:17 AM

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Here it is, first one I've done:

It's an SIB Pro medium.
Looks better than some first time installs. Still got tearing on the leather from a dull cutter. Looks like some chalk stains got glue coated.
  
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01-05-2020, 07:09 AM

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Looks better than some first time installs. Still got tearing on the leather from a dull cutter. Looks like some chalk stains got glue coated.
Thanks for the feedback! That blue isn't chalk, I don't think, I think it's blue ink from the back of the tip.

I used a lathe carbide cutter, so wasn't really cutting it, was scraping it. What's the preferred cutter for leather tips?
  
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Thanks for the feedback! That blue isn't chalk, I don't think, I think it's blue ink from the back of the tip.

I used a lathe carbide cutter, so wasn't really cutting it, was scraping it. What's the preferred cutter for leather tips?
Have you tried Lenox titanium blades? A little more expensive than other blades, but they are quite sharp. After you center the tip, let the CA cure several minutes, then slightly wet the tip before cutting. The leather should ďribbonĒ off the tip, if itís a layered tip. Then shape and burnish as you would normally do. Hope this helps.
  
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01-05-2020, 08:32 AM

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Have you tried Lenox titanium blades? A little more expensive than other blades, but they are quite sharp. After you center the tip, let the CA cure several minutes, then slightly wet the tip before cutting. The leather should ďribbonĒ off the tip, if itís a layered tip. Then shape and burnish as you would normally do. Hope this helps.
Hi Tom,

Thanks for the reply. I am having a bit of trouble visualizing what you suggest. I assume you are referring to the Lenox titanium-coated utility knife blades? How do you hold them when cutting? Also, what spindle speed do you recommend?

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01-05-2020, 08:36 AM

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the reply. I am having a bit of trouble visualizing what you suggest. I assume you are referring to the Lenox titanium-coated utility knife blades? How do you hold them when cutting? Also, what spindle speed do you recommend?

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jv[/QUOTE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ICcN5qyJk
  
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Thanks. I must confess that, having done a lot of lathe work, that the knife position when he's initially trimming to diameter makes me cringe. But, it seems to work for him.

Do you have any idea of the spindle speed?
  
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Hi Tom,

Thanks for the reply. I am having a bit of trouble visualizing what you suggest. I assume you are referring to the Lenox titanium-coated utility knife blades? How do you hold them when cutting? Also, what spindle speed do you recommend?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ICcN5qyJk[/QUOTE]I have mine done but iirc its around 1800revs.
  
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I have mine done but iirc its around 1800revs.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. That's near the top speed on my metal lathe, but wood lathes go faster. I cut mine at 900. Will experiment with different speeds (on cheap tips).
  
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I have mine done but iirc its around 1800revs.
Thanks. That's near the top speed on my metal lathe, but wood lathes go faster. I cut mine at 900. Will experiment with different speeds (on cheap tips).[/QUOTE]I just did a quick search and most all said between 1500-2000. 900 may be a tad slow. Definitely want to wet it to make it cut easier.
  
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Thanks. I must confess that, having done a lot of lathe work, that the knife position when he's initially trimming to diameter makes me cringe. But, it seems to work for him.

Do you have any idea of the spindle speed?
The slower the better. But not too slow. Due to the dual bevel of a razor blade, youíll **** up some ferrules in the learning process. Iíve transitioned from using razor blades to a specialty ground blade. Completely flat on the bottom, with one side ground to the point(single bevel). Itís quicker, less error prone. But requires maintenance to keep a sharp edge that utility blades donít need. I just modified a 3/8Ē old chisel.

And there should be zero ink left on the bottom of the tip when you go to glue it. Are you sanding the back of the tip first?
  
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Are you sanding the back of the tip first?
Yes, but apparently not enough.
  
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01-05-2020, 09:46 AM

I like this video:

How to install a tip on a pool cue using a lathe
  
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01-05-2020, 02:53 PM

Ouch. On that last pass of the facing of the ferrule, a lot of white came out. A few tips done this way, your ferrule and shaft will be noticeably shorter.

Learn to do it yourself. Don't shorten the ferrule.

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01-07-2020, 11:37 AM

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The slower the better. But not too slow. Due to the dual bevel of a razor blade, youíll **** up some ferrules in the learning process. Iíve transitioned from using razor blades to a specialty ground blade. Completely flat on the bottom, with one side ground to the point(single bevel). Itís quicker, less error prone. But requires maintenance to keep a sharp edge that utility blades donít need. I just modified a 3/8Ē old chisel.

And there should be zero ink left on the bottom of the tip when you go to glue it. Are you sanding the back of the tip first?
You know, somewhere in my boxes and boxes of lathe cutters I have a parting blade that my father in law ground on top to produce a fairly steep profile, as for cutting wood, or maybe aluminum, which also requires a steep profile. If I can find it I'll touch it with a stone to sharpen it up, and try carving a tip down to diameter, i.e., not scraping it, at fairly slow spindle speed, and a reasonable longitudinal power feed. Here's the tool:



I'll chuck close to the ferrule and wrap the ferrule with a layer of Scotch tape, so I can touch it with the tool without cutting the ferrule; then feed to the right.
  
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