One Pocket - Intentional Foul Etiquette

realkingcobra · Feb 22, 2017

garczar said:
I gotta ask: where in 6.11 does the word corner-hooked appear? Its pretty clear that incoming player has to either hit a ball outside the kitchen or go above it and come back in. Doesn't 6.11 ONLY deal with BIH in the kitchen?

Yep, sure does, but there are those on here that believe it's a legal shot to take that ball in hand, stick the cue ball in a corner pocket, then freeze it to a pocket facing....intentionally fouling, corner hooking the cue ball so no open shot is available to the incoming opponent....and they call that a legal shot....because they forfeit a point/ball for the foul....when in fact, they haven't complied with the BIH rule of the cue ball in the kitchen at the moment they pull that move.....so, how can the move be accepted as a shot by simply calling it a foul,

realkingcobra · Feb 22, 2017

He'll, why go through all that hassel to just commit a foul, why not just place the cue ball inside the jaws of you opponents pocket and corner hook it right there....or better yet, freeze it to the back side of an object ball right in front of your opponents pocket....the penalty is just one point anyway....right?

realkingcobra · Feb 22, 2017

Bob Jewett said:
And arrogant.

Apparently someone told you pool table mechanics don't know the first thing about playing pool, as we only know how to work on pool tables and should just shut up otherwise....who ever it was....lied to you

SJDinPHX · Feb 22, 2017

realkingcobra said:
Apparently someone told you pool table mechanics don't know the first thing about playing pool, as we only know how to work on pool tables and should just shut up otherwise....who ever it was....lied to you

I'm going to go with Mr. Jewett on this one!..From what I've seen on here thus far, pool table mechanics know less about playing pool, than most automobile mechanics!

PS..It could be that covering a pool table, is no great challenge!..(any decent do-it-yourselfer can easily accomplish it)..Its a little easier than learning how to work on hundreds of different vehicles..(ya think?)

realkingcobra · Feb 22, 2017

SJDinPHX said:
I'm going to go with Mr. Jewett on this one!..From what I've seen on here thus far, pool table mechanics know less about playing pool, than most automobile mechanics!

PS..It could be that covering a pool table, is no great challenge!..(any decent do-it-yourselfer can easily accomplish it)..Its a little easier than learning how to work on hundreds of different vehicles..(ya think?)

Just confirms what I said....most of you players wouldn't know a decent playing pool table....even if you bumped into one

wayne · Feb 22, 2017

realkingcobra said:
Just confirms what I said....most of you players wouldn't know a decent playing pool table....even if you bumped into one

I do believe that most decent pool players know a decent playing table.

Probably, most of us don't know the difference between a perfect playing table and a decent playing one because we generally just get to play on decent ones or worse.

From what I have read your standards are higher than just a satisfactory (decent) job on a table but I don't know any decent players who expect that in the pool halls I frequent. We are usually just happy if they recover the tables within 3 months after they should have been recovered, if they are level and the rails aren't too worn that is a bonus.

Black-Balled · Feb 22, 2017

Ekojasiloop said:
This is the same concept as an intentional walk in baseball. They gotta throw those pitches. Anything can happen. It would not be fair to the offensive team to let them out of that obligation, errors can occur in the process. Personally, I would just let him know I'm not going to shoot until you move the cb.

Well, scratch that example.

MLB decided- today- that intentional walks would now be granted with a signal from the dugout.

DMM4342 · Feb 22, 2017

Because the posting has not been on topic specifically, I post comments relative to MLB.
In Major League Baseball the intentional walk gives the base runner four chances to steal a base—or more! So there there are two valid reason for making the pitcher pitch those four pitches:
1. The baserunner stealing as above.
2. Attrition; i.e. wearing down the pitcher. And with a good base runner the pitcher can't just throw lobs, he has to throw fast pitches and and be on target. The intentional walk is not a done deal for the defense. The more pitches, the less accuracy.
I now tune to George Carlin's take on Football and Baseball.
Dave

Black-Balled · Feb 22, 2017

DMM4342 said:
Because the posting has not been on topic specifically, I post comments relative to MLB.
In Major League Baseball the intentional walk gives the base runner four chances to steal a base—or more! So there there are two valid reason for making the pitcher pitch those four pitches:
1. The baserunner stealing as above.
2. Attrition; i.e. wearing down the pitcher. And with a good base runner the pitcher can't just throw lobs, he has to throw fast pitches and and be on target. The intentional walk is not a done deal for the defense. The more pitches, the less accuracy.
I now tune to George Carlin's take on Football and Baseball.
Dave

The intentional walk IS a done deal.

garczar · Feb 22, 2017

Black-Balled said:
The intentional walk IS a done deal.

I'm an old-school fan but they really need to do more to speed up the games. 4.5-5hr. games are a joke. Every now-n-then a guy throws wild on a IW but mostly it just eats up time. I like this idea.

Bob Jewett · Feb 22, 2017

garczar said:
I'm an old-school fan but they really need to do more to speed up the games. 4.5-5hr. games are a joke. Every now-n-then a guy throws wild on a IW but mostly it just eats up time. I like this idea.

Hey, baseball used to be a race to 21. That was a real game!

DMM4342 · Feb 22, 2017

Black-Balled said:
The intentional walk IS a done deal.

You are correct and I am a day a late and incorrect!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2694311-mlb-reportedly-approves-changes-to-intentional-walk-rule

Another great tactic bites the dust all for speeding up the game for the Sesame Sreet generations who must have ACTION, NOW!

I might take up Snooker.
Dave

Black-Balled · Feb 22, 2017

DMM4342 said:
You are correct and I am a day a late and incorrect!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2694311-mlb-reportedly-approves-changes-to-intentional-walk-rule

Another great tactic bites the dust all for speeding up the game for the Sesame Sreet generations who must have ACTION, NOW!

I might take up Snooker.
Dave

30,000 posts and they are all true.

realkingcobra · Feb 22, 2017

SJDinPHX said:
I'm going to go with Mr. Jewett on this one!..From what I've seen on here thus far, pool table mechanics know less about playing pool, than most automobile mechanics!

PS..It could be that covering a pool table, is no great challenge!..(any decent do-it-yourselfer can easily accomplish it)..Its a little easier than learning how to work on hundreds of different vehicles..(ya think?)

Well, it's clear you think putting cloth on a pool table is what defines a pool table mechanic, installing cloth is an installers job description, not a pool table mechanics....LMAO....you have no idea what I do to pool tables....LOL

Ekojasiloop · Feb 22, 2017

Black-Balled said:
Well, scratch that example.

MLB decided- today- that intentional walks would now be granted with a signal from the dugout.

That decision surprises the hell out of me.

pt109 · Feb 22, 2017

Black-Balled said:
30,000 posts and they are all true.

Sez the guy with 29,933 posts....:rotflmao1:

RiverCity · Feb 22, 2017

Black-Balled said:
The intentional walk IS a done deal.

Damned shame....... :thumbup:

realkingcobra · Feb 22, 2017

SJDinPHX said:
I'm going to go with Mr. Jewett on this one!..From what I've seen on here thus far, pool table mechanics know less about playing pool, than most automobile mechanics!

PS..It could be that covering a pool table, is no great challenge!..(any decent do-it-yourselfer can easily accomplish it)..Its a little easier than learning how to work on hundreds of different vehicles..(ya think?)

How do you think a do it yourself kind of person or a cloth installer deal with this?

realkingcobra · Feb 23, 2017

Think installing cloth gives a person the skills to rebuild rails better than the factory built them in the first place new?

realkingcobra · Feb 23, 2017

Or maybe the skills it takes to install cloth are the same skills required to completely refinish a GC1.

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