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Exclamation Warning PSA RE: Az'er Scruggsinhand - 01-07-2012, 06:25 AM

This is a Public Service Announcement regarding az member Scruggsinhand.

Over the past few days I have been negotiating a deal on a Scruggs cue with az'er Scruggsinhand.

Just prior to, and then again when we did come to a mutually agreed upon price, he began pressing me unreasonably that I must overnight him this cue and that he would mail me a money order at the same time.

I politely explained that I won't be shipping the cue until payment is received and he took another pass at me saying how he was going to be out of town for a week or so and didn't want the cue to arrive and sit unattended on his porch.

I reiterated that as much as I would like to do this deal with him, I won't ship the cue without it first being paid for. I added that I would be happy to send the cue at a time that would coincide with his return and he then fell off the radar.

I saw that his iTrader was 100% and was thinking maybe I'm being a little too rigid but something was bothering me about all this. But I thought I remembered reading something about this guy a while back where he did somebody wrong.

A quick search uncovered the following 11 page gem (see below) that shows how he has operated before.

Four quick things:

1. Thank you mods for leaving that very valuable thread up that serves as a cautionary tale. Very helpful indeed.

2. Anyone considering doing biz with this fellow, I would recommend that you read that thread first and proceed with appropriate caution.

3. After my reading all 11 pages of that thread, I know I will never do business with him under any circumstance.

4. After his past shenanigans, how is his iTrader still at 100%?

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showth...inhand+problem

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01-07-2012, 07:01 AM

To quote that thread ''shady indeed''
Good on you for geting the information before the deal could have gone pear shaped

I was offered a trade by him a couple years ago,Glad i held onto my cue for the right buyer
  
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Just ask to get your cue before you ship his cue.
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Just ask to get your cue before you ship his cue. - 01-07-2012, 07:12 AM

He did remidy his bad situation I understand. I took a few years but he made it right.
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01-07-2012, 08:00 AM

I was surprised to see him back on the forum after his past transgressions.

I also couldn't believe it when I seen a recent post by the infamous "barkcinnamon"
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=258323

He's the worst scammer of all time on AZB:
http://http://forums.azbilliards.com...d.php?t=240001

I keep a "list" of not only user names but also real names and locations of those who I won't deal with.

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01-07-2012, 08:20 AM

I've done deals with Brian & all went smooth. Too many amateur detectives can spoil the soup.LOL
  
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If you don't have a great rep - 01-07-2012, 08:27 AM

You can't expect to have a cue shipped to you before you pay for it. You can ask.
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01-07-2012, 08:49 AM

It's mission impossible to expect shipped cue before u pay...lol
  
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01-07-2012, 08:58 AM

I've shipped cues & vice versa with several credible forum members with no problem. Your WORD is golden.
  
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Money is never a issue. - 01-07-2012, 09:17 AM

Unless it is a issue!
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01-07-2012, 03:58 PM

I think I'd have to question the request and likely not send anything until payment was received but I would also like to point out that he issued cash refunds be it several years later.... Most truly dishonest people would never have done so....


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01-07-2012, 04:26 PM

Here would have been a good way to handle this: He should have sent you the money, y'all should have swapped phone numbers via PM's, he should have called you when he KNEW which day he would arrive home, and the cue should have been sent to arrive on the day of or next day of his arrival home. Problem solved for both parties. He either was pulling something shady, or he really didn't want the cue all that badly!!!

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01-07-2012, 04:31 PM

Too many stories like this lately. I'm going to use escrow from now on.
  
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01-07-2012, 06:47 PM

For every shady deal, there are hundreds of great deals. All depends on who you deal with.

There are many many people on here that I would ship a cue to with not a second thought.

As well as many many that I would NOT!!
  
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01-07-2012, 08:07 PM

I don't care if Jesus Christ wants a cue I have for sale, he is gonna pay before I ship it.

Last time I checked, nobody on this board had his credentials so they shouldn't expect to be treated any differently.


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01-08-2012, 12:28 AM

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This is a Public Service Announcement regarding az member Scruggsinhand.

Over the past few days I have been negotiating a deal on a Scruggs cue with az'er Scruggsinhand.

Just prior to, and then again when we did come to a mutually agreed upon price, he began pressing me unreasonably that I must overnight him this cue and that he would mail me a money order at the same time.

I politely explained that I won't be shipping the cue until payment is received and he took another pass at me saying how he was going to be out of town for a week or so and didn't want the cue to arrive and sit unattended on his porch.

I reiterated that as much as I would like to do this deal with him, I won't ship the cue without it first being paid for. I added that I would be happy to send the cue at a time that would coincide with his return and he then fell off the radar.

I saw that his iTrader was 100% and was thinking maybe I'm being a little too rigid but something was bothering me about all this. But I thought I remembered reading something about this guy a while back where he did somebody wrong.

A quick search uncovered the following 11 page gem (see below) that shows how he has operated before.

Four quick things:

1. Thank you mods for leaving that very valuable thread up that serves as a cautionary tale. Very helpful indeed.

2. Anyone considering doing biz with this fellow, I would recommend that you read that thread first and proceed with appropriate caution.

3. After my reading all 11 pages of that thread, I know I will never do business with him under any circumstance.

4. After his past shenanigans, how is his iTrader still at 100%?

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showth...inhand+problem

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Brian kc

Brian Kickin Chicken is good people and totally trustworthy.

If this comes up again Brian and you want to use me for escrow, I'll do it for nothing. Whoever can send me the payment payable to you and when I have it, you ship. Then when he says the cue is received and OK, I'll send the payment to you.

I've done this for others a couple of times and it worked fine. It costs no more than a postage stamp.

Scruggsinhand cannot expect trust any longer.

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