Have the rules changed?

poolfool1957

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Let's not pretend that it's only the "newbies" that violate the rules for bumping. Reporting inappropriate post's seems to be a complete waste of time or worse yet, makes the person doing the reporting the bad guy.
 

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Let's not pretend that it's only the "newbies" that violate the rules for bumping. Reporting inappropriate post's seems to be a complete waste of time or worse yet, makes the person doing the reporting the bad guy.

It's interesting that you and Matt feel that way. When the rules were changed to the 48 hour bumping rules we have now, I posted a few times trying to inform the offending poster of the rules. I received a number of nasty pm's telling me not to get involved in their threads and to stay out of their business. So clearly there are people here who knowingly break the rules and don't care. I actually received a pm from a mod telling me to keep reporting them. I did think that odd considering reporting a post is supposed to be annonamus. Lol
 

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We don't need any new rules or regulations or sub-forums, etc. All we need to do is follow the rules that are in place already and show a little courtesy for each other. It is never going to be a perfect forum, but it is still my favorite pool place to be.

Joe
 

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As a new member,I'll admit I only gave the rules a quick read,and missed that one about bumping,and have done it a few times. I now know better.

However,I disagree with the rule that all questions should be sent via pm.If someone has a genuine question(s) about the item(s),wouldn't it better serve everyone if the actual questions are allowed to be posted,saving the seller from having to reply to multiple pms answering the same questions(s)? That way,once a question is asked and answered in the thread,it won't need to be asked again.

I can understand what you're saying, but there is a way to handle that situation without bumping the thread. If the question generates an answer that would be helpful to more than just the one asking the question, then the OP *should* edit the original post, adding the new information. The OP could do this for specs, specifics about the cue that were forgotten, etc. The reason most don't do it this way, is that they get a "free" bump out of it. The rules state very clearly that you may either wait until your 48 hour bump period to answer in the thread, or edit your original post (which does not cause the thread to be bumped) at any time.

I hope that clears up the reasoning behind that rule.

Chris
 

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I can understand what you're saying, but there is a way to handle that situation without bumping the thread. If the question generates an answer that would be helpful to more than just the one asking the question, then the OP *should* edit the original post, adding the new information. The OP could do this for specs, specifics about the cue that were forgotten, etc. The reason most don't do it this way, is that they get a "free" bump out of it. The rules state very clearly that you may either wait until your 48 hour bump period to answer in the thread, or edit your original post (which does not cause the thread to be bumped) at any time.

I hope that clears up the reasoning behind that rule.

Chris

Yes it does,thank you.
 

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playing favorites

The mods definitely play favorites. I've been warned for bumping inn 38 hours. It was a mistake but it pissed me of cause 6 other thread on the same page were in clear violation of the rule. There are a few guys who have there same friends bump with the same comments to the same thread. How many time do you have to tell the guy he is selling a nice cue. The ironic thing is, when i was warned, he did it witha reply instead of a p.m. , so it bumped me to the top . I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees this forum is in need of some changes.

I think it should be mandatory that you post a price. What is the big fken secret!
 

sharpq

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He has every right to do that. You felt you had the right to........ What's good for the goose.........

Personally, I feel that was abuse of the rep system on your part. Send him a PM if you are so concerned about enforcing the rules and explain them to him.





As a perfect example to what the problem is, I just received a pm from a member calling me an a$$hole for leaving him a negative rep for posting a thread and then bumping it about 8 hours later. He couldn't understand why I would give a "good az'er" a bad rep. Well..... If you were a "good az'er" you would know the rules and try to follow them. :rolleyes:

For those of you who are guilty of this practice, here's why it's a problem. There is a 48 hour bump rule that only allows you to bump your for sale thread every 48 hours. This is done because if you keep bumping your thread, the rest of us who also have items for sale keep getting our threads pushed further and further from actually being seen on the front page. When you continue to bump your post, you continually are on the front page where the rest of us are on page 6 after an hour. So think about that and ask yourself if that's fair to the rest of us?

Edit: I just received another pm from this "good az'er" stating that he was going to back and look at all my threads and leave me negative rep for every time I broke the rules. I'm so glad he is such a great member of our community. Rather than just realizing he made a mistake and trying to correct it in the future, he would rather be vindictive and discourteous to the other members and keep practicing the behavior that earned him a red rep.

Let's all give him a greenie for being such a team player! Lol
 

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It's interesting that you and Matt feel that way. When the rules were changed to the 48 hour bumping rules we have now, I posted a few times trying to inform the offending poster of the rules. I received a number of nasty pm's telling me not to get involved in their threads and to stay out of their business. So clearly there are people here who knowingly break the rules and don't care. I actually received a pm from a mod telling me to keep reporting them. I did think that odd considering reporting a post is supposed to be annonamus. Lol

So you start this thread today in the for sale section with nothing for sale bump it twice in the same day besides the original post yet you give others Red Rep! Are you special? This thread is doing the same thing that you are pissing and moaning about , pushing things that are for sale off page 1 in the future why not send the mods a pm and spare the guy's posting things that belong in this section from being pushed to page 3 or 4 in a day! Just Sayin...
One good thing everyone now knows Matt wants to be forum police and snitching everyone out! Baahaahaa
 

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Hi there ,
As a new user this post has peaked my interest. I am new to this forum or any forum that matter. I have to say this site is somewhat hard to navigate to be honest I have yet to come across the rules for the wanted / for sale thread. As someone who comes across used and new cues all the time I would definitely like to know what the rules are so I can do my posts as professionally as possible , any help would be much appreciated

Thanks!
 

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Hay Ron

So you start this thread today in the for sale section with nothing for sale bump it twice in the same day besides the original post yet you give others Red Rep! Are you special? This thread is doing the same thing that you are pissing and moaning about , pushing things that are for sale off page 1 in the future why not send the mods a pm and spare the guy's posting things that belong in this section from being pushed to page 3 or 4 in a day! Just Sayin...
One good thing everyone now knows Matt wants to be forum police and snitching everyone out! Baahaahaa

Very astute.
Nick ;)
 

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Hi there ,
As a new user this post has peaked my interest. I am new to this forum or any forum that matter. I have to say this site is somewhat hard to navigate to be honest I have yet to come across the rules for the wanted / for sale thread. As someone who comes across used and new cues all the time I would definitely like to know what the rules are so I can do my posts as professionally as possible , any help would be much appreciated

Thanks!

lol...when you go to the wanted for sale section what is the 5th thread down from the top??? :D
 

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We don't need any new rules or regulations or sub-forums, etc. All we need to do is follow the rules that are in place already and show a little courtesy for each other. It is never going to be a perfect forum, but it is still my favorite pool place to be.

Joe


In my opinion...Joe is right. We don't need new rules/regs or reinvent the wheel. We just need to follow the ones in place and exercise some common courtesy.

New people (and there are a lot of new people in the last couple of years)...read the rules first. If you don't understand them...read them again. And if you still don't understand them...reach out to the moderator.

For the people that have been on the forum actively for a few years...the above applies as well and stop gaming the system and bending the rules.

Thanks to the member (Monstermash) for starting this thread...
 

batalarms

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I always thought it was wrong for one person selling multiple cues to open a seperate thread for each cue. I've seen a few sellers on here do that with as many as 5 or 6 cues being sold at the same time.

Hell, list 'em all in one thread!!! That way, everyone elses threads aren't getting bumped to page two.

Maniac

Great idea.Put em all in one thread.Why 6 threads for 6 cues or cases?
Marc
 

classiccues

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Joe,

In Utopia, you would be the king :grin: Unfortunately we ain't there yet. Sub forums would help greatly, the site is just to populated to not have them. 2, 3years ago, the current rules would be ok. But just like a real highway, or town, you need to renovate for the population explosion.

The other idea of putting multiple cues in a thread is a sure way to keep that thread on the first page, for multiple days. You will get a bump or two for every cue or case shown in the listing. Just like you end up with now on single threads multiplied by 6.

Here is an idea... why don't you guys start buying some cues and they'll disappear :) ROTFLMAO just "effing around...

JV

We don't need any new rules or regulations or sub-forums, etc. All we need to do is follow the rules that are in place already and show a little courtesy for each other. It is never going to be a perfect forum, but it is still my favorite pool place to be.

Joe
 

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Rules

Rules were meant to broken!Ya right.Remember a week or 2 ago when this site was down?Carefull what you wish for boys!I do not post much.What difference does that make? Ever look for a Tascarella or a Mottey or anything else from a custom cue maker on the search engines?NOTTA!I got my cues from craigslist.That being said,like the site,format is what is is.I have said this before,you dont know what you got till its gone!Enough said fellas!
 

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Instead of revisiting this stuff every 6 months or so, we could all start by trying to be more courteous to one another and making our best attempt to follow the rules. Rules are never gonna be perfect and take into account every scenario or question that comes up. They're only a basic framework.

Second, imo this section (Wanted/For Sale) needs its own moderator with this one section as his/her only focus. Not that there is any complaint....it's just too big a job to expect someone keeping things in check here and elsewhere, too.

Imo, having threads with multiple items per seller can be very cumbersome. They also usually don't have enough info, then you lead to having a lot of questions asked, then obviously the excessive bumping. If you can't get them all listed in the thread title, it's tough to start to catch a viewer's eye. Maybe a limit of 5 open W/FS threads at a time would be a better approach.

And of course, we are just guests here.....so let's respect that fact, as well.
 

Lonestar_jim

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Nice cue

Wow this thing is the nutz. I remember when I played with it, it sure hit like a ton.

If I had seen this thread 5 min. ago I would have paid twice what you're asking, but I just ordered new wood.

I can't believe this is still here, whoever buys it is stealing !

In this economy the cue market is really down.

The market is flooded with wood these days.

Ok 24h more and I'm putting this on E-bay.

Sorry, wrong thread !
 
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Webbs Billiards

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I've noticed the same thing with some people getting somewhat agressive at "newer members". There are more than one "good" points to this issue.

I think one of the main issues is that some members don't know what is considered "bumping". Out of the 3 forums I constantly visit, this one is the only one that considers answering a question "bumping". This is for good reason as posts can go from page 1 to page 4 in a few hours. Breaking this selling section into 2 or 3 categories would definitely help.

On the other hand, people do need to read the rules. They aren't created because the MODs felt like doing something different. It is usually a specific solution to a problem. In addition, the MODs don't get paid to run this forum. The probably get just enough to pay for the hardware and website subscriptions. Please don't feel like you're entitled to something. You are a visitor, that is using what someone else has created. Don't bash the MODs. If you think you can do it better, go for it.

This is a place to share knowledge and find people to gamble with.... just have fun and enjoy what we have.

I tried that, not because I didn't like this forum or thought I could do better, but to give folks who weren't specifically into customs a place to chat/do business... but it takes alot to get a crowd going.
 

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Great idea.Put em all in one thread.Why 6 threads for 6 cues or cases?
Marc

Because it makes no sense to list completely different items together. Each item needs it's own heading, so it can be searched for and found. Also, when that item sells, that thread dies. I'm not listing a high end custom cue, with a case or a production cue. When items are listed and bumped properly there is no harm in the separate listings. I even try to not bump my items together. I even take some time between posts as I create listings.

Just because a J&J case can carry a Szamboti, doesn't mean they should be listed in the same thread.
 
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