Blind joint-type test..............
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Dang 1999?? The internet was a much more civil place back then.
Also from the same 1999 thread:
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Leave it to you, Gar, to come up with thought-provoking s**t like this. One of the more interesting things I've read in ages... :thumbup2:
Well, people have been bringing this test up so i went to searchin' and found it. I remember back when it was done the players involved were quite surprised that the joint really has no effect on how a cue feels.
You know you've been around too long when you know what the links leads to without even opening it :-o
Lou Figueroa
And that's really surprising to me, too... I would've *bet* the opposite was true. I always thought, say, a brass joint hit much more "thuddingly" ( which I like ) than "Ding-ish-ly" ( which I'm not big on ). Learn something every day in this joint! :grin:
Great find! Murray Tucker posted the McChesney comment several years back. I have reposted links to Murray's post several times. Many times I get hate mail from players who swear this is wrong. IIRC, several people wanted to re-run the experiment at DCC last year. Not sure what they want to prove.
For me, this experiment explains my personal preferences.
55 of 70 players preferred two cues...they were both sneaky petes.....
...a Huebler and a Scruggs
I feel there’s some evidence being ignored here...wood to wood hits better.
Played a lot of snooker in my life...I never found a snooker cue with steel, brass or aluminum
that I would keep...they all were weak hitters on the heavier snooker cloth....
...and I had snooker shafts made for my Joss and Szamboti...
...all my snooker cues are wood to wood....carom cue also.
Allan McCarty had a long phone call with me when he was developing the Predator BK..
...he thought the BK would have a stainless steel joint...to his surprise, Iron Willie showed
showed that wood to wood produced 7 to 10% more speed.
:idea2:...I told him that explains why I never kept a snooker cue with metal in the joint,
...snooker cloth requires a stronger hit.
But go figure, all the pool cues I wouldn’t part with over the years have stainless steel...
...except for one Joss sneaky pete from the early 90s...stainless steel doesn’t wear.
55 of 70 players preferred two cues...they were both sneaky petes.....
...a Huebler and a Scruggs
I feel there’s some evidence being ignored here...wood to wood hits better.
Played a lot of snooker in my life...I never found a snooker cue with steel, brass or aluminum
that I would keep...they all were weak hitters on the heavier snooker cloth....
...and I had snooker shafts made for my Joss and Szamboti...
...all my snooker cues are wood to wood....carom cue also.
Allan McCarty had a long phone call with me when he was developing the Predator BK..
...he thought the BK would have a stainless steel joint...to his surprise, Iron Willie showed
showed that wood to wood produced 7 to 10% more speed.
:idea2:...I told him that explains why I never kept a snooker cue with metal in the joint,
...snooker cloth requires a stronger hit.
But go figure, all the pool cues I wouldn’t part with over the years have stainless steel...
...except for one Joss sneaky pete from the early 90s...stainless steel doesn’t wear.
Does the brass insert on the Scruggs matter ?
Huebler had nylon inserts.
Not arguing your points BUT, why are 2pc snooker cues made using that funky brass joint? I've watched a ton online and i've never noticed those guys having any issues using them. I've never seen a 2pc snooker cue with a wood-wood joint. They all seem to use the brass-2-brass joint.
I’ve often wondered about that, Joey.....I kinda think not, but not sure.
...always loved the idea of the nylon insert...Adams tried it also...
...but there’s so many other factors...never found THAT Adams or Huebler that was for me.
My most powerful snooker cue had a thin steel screw with about 24 threads per inch...
...and had an aluminum insert.
My best snooker cues were 29mm where I held it...but swelled to over 30mm behind
my hand.....an artisan from another field said the butt getting bigger at the end gave it
a softer hit...absorbed the vibrations....what do you think, Joey?