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How to Improve Aiming Speed? - 02-08-2019, 09:43 AM

When I get down on a cut shot, I almost always initially line up to undercut the shot. I'm not sure why, but I always do and it's annoying. I then have to adjust my aim slightly to make the ball. Sometimes I have to standup and realign and sometimes I can make a minor tweek while down.

Regardless, I would like to be able to get faster and more efficient at this process. I would like to be able to get down and aim the shot correctly the first time.

Does anyone know why I tend to always instinctively aim to undercut the shot?

Does anyone have any advice on how to practice aiming or setting up on the shot quicker?

The only thing I can think to do is take more time while standing to find the correct aiming point before getting down. I've tried this and it doesn't seem to fix my problem much.
  
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02-08-2019, 10:56 AM

CAVEAT: I am always evolving and trying new approaches. What Iíd share 12 months ago doesnít match what I do now.

A lot of my aiming is mostly ghost ball visualization while standing and contact point overlap while down. I find I can see a bit of both while standing if I start a little further away from the table and my starting alignment is better if I step into the shot.

When down on the shot Iíve been doing much more with micro strokes / feathering. I feel like it sets my muscles for a more straight stroke delivery. A side effect lately is that I noticed an improvement on my aim. Almost to the point I feel confident in my aim and alignment much sooner, meaning faster aim and faster overall play. I try not to allow any adjustments or movement while down but this feels to me like it fine tunes my aiming.

Aside from that, I donít often adjust much for cut-induced throw. I do know on thin cuts that spin-induced throw doesnít take much effect but cueball deflection from sidespin definitely needs compensating (even with a Revo). If I donít I frequently undercut with outside spin.


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02-08-2019, 10:58 AM

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When I get down on a cut shot, I almost always initially line up to undercut the shot. I'm not sure why, but I always do and it's annoying. I then have to adjust my aim slightly to make the ball. Sometimes I have to standup and realign and sometimes I can make a minor tweek while down.

Regardless, I would like to be able to get faster and more efficient at this process. I would like to be able to get down and aim the shot correctly the first time.

Does anyone know why I tend to always instinctively aim to undercut the shot?

Does anyone have any advice on how to practice aiming or setting up on the shot quicker?

The only thing I can think to do is take more time while standing to find the correct aiming point before getting down. I've tried this and it doesn't seem to fix my problem much.
Pard, there is an entire sub-Forum here. Its the 'Aiming Conversation' section. I'd go there first with this.
  
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02-08-2019, 11:03 AM

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Pard, there is an entire sub-Forum here. Its the 'Aiming Conversation' section. I'd go there first with this.
I didn't post there because I'm not interested in discussing various aiming methods. I just want know if there are any tips or drills I can do to aim quicker.
  
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I didn't post there because I'm not interested in discussing various aiming methods. I just want know if there are any tips or drills I can do to aim quicker.
That section is not just systems/methods. My point was you'll probably get more/better responses there as in "faster".
  
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02-08-2019, 03:20 PM

Whatever you do, do the same thing each time. You try to rush it and you're
getting ready to really screw something up. After you've done it several times you'll
know you're on just a bit quicker. So how much quicker do you want to be? Think about it.



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When I get down on a cut shot, I almost always initially line up to undercut the shot. I'm not sure why, but I always do and it's annoying. I then have to adjust my aim slightly to make the ball. Sometimes I have to standup and realign and sometimes I can make a minor tweek while down.

Regardless, I would like to be able to get faster and more efficient at this process. I would like to be able to get down and aim the shot correctly the first time.

Does anyone know why I tend to always instinctively aim to undercut the shot?

Does anyone have any advice on how to practice aiming or setting up on the shot quicker?

The only thing I can think to do is take more time while standing to find the correct aiming point before getting down. I've tried this and it doesn't seem to fix my problem much.


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02-08-2019, 07:27 PM

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When I get down on a cut shot, I almost always initially line up to undercut the shot. I'm not sure why, but I always do and it's annoying. I then have to adjust my aim slightly to make the ball. Sometimes I have to standup and realign and sometimes I can make a minor tweek while down.

Regardless, I would like to be able to get faster and more efficient at this process. I would like to be able to get down and aim the shot correctly the first time.

Does anyone know why I tend to always instinctively aim to undercut the shot?

Does anyone have any advice on how to practice aiming or setting up on the shot quicker?

The only thing I can think to do is take more time while standing to find the correct aiming point before getting down. I've tried this and it doesn't seem to fix my problem much.
No shortcuts - it takes years of trial and error from hitting +/- a million balls until your brain is subconsciously confident with the angle you're aiming at on a cut shot. It just comes a lot quicker for some players than it does for others - that's just the way it is. Generally, to compensate for deflection, if you're applying inside spin, you will be aiming to slightly undercut the ball, and with outside spin you'll be aiming to overcut the ball.
  
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02-08-2019, 07:44 PM

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No shortcuts - it takes years of trial and error from hitting +/- a million balls until your brain is subconsciously confident with the angle you're aiming at on a cut shot. It just comes a lot quicker for some players than it does for others - that's just the way it is. Generally, to compensate for deflection, if you're applying inside spin, you will be aiming to slightly undercut the ball, and with outside spin you'll be aiming to overcut the ball.
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No it does not take years of trial and error.
No it does not take 'hitting a million balls' for your brain to be subconsciously confident of a few simple angles.
No you do not have to 'compensate for deflection' if you know the right way to aim.
But the experts around here will never in a million years accept any of that.
Lots of inferior information floating around...........and a big time money making pro is not about to reveal the REAL stuff to any shortstops.
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02-08-2019, 07:47 PM

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02-08-2019, 09:25 PM

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I don't think you know how to aim.

You might have a bad memory, no stroke, wrong tip, wrong shaft, wrong cue.


Practice cut shots. You can start at half ball hits then go to a quarter ball hit.

Then practice half ball hits with outside English and then do the same with quarter ball hits.


Hopefully something will just start clicking for you.





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02-09-2019, 04:14 AM

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When I get down on a cut shot, I almost always initially line up to undercut the shot. I'm not sure why, but I always do and it's annoying. I then have to adjust my aim slightly to make the ball. Sometimes I have to standup and realign and sometimes I can make a minor tweek while down.

Regardless, I would like to be able to get faster and more efficient at this process. I would like to be able to get down and aim the shot correctly the first time.

Does anyone know why I tend to always instinctively aim to undercut the shot?

Does anyone have any advice on how to practice aiming or setting up on the shot quicker?

The only thing I can think to do is take more time while standing to find the correct aiming point before getting down. I've tried this and it doesn't seem to fix my problem much.
Your approach in addressing the problem is correct. Not exactly sure what your problems are – one possible explanation is subconsciously you'll adjust back to the wrong line; it's actually normal because to your body, it feels right

one suggestion is not to do your usual correction when you are down on your shot. Shoot, miss, and when you repeat the shot, correct your visual to compensate when you are standing up. It's just a means of breaking the pattern.

the other approach is not to change the visual line but change the stance/set up slightly (correct before going down) but i feel this is usually more trouble than its worth especially if your stroke is very consistent and sound.

Actually, the posters here will be able to help you more if you can post a video of your setup and all. In a way we're just shooting in the dark and the advice might wind up being more harmful than good.
  
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02-09-2019, 05:06 AM

try to aim the shot on purpose alittle as an overcut
see what happens
i would be curious to know the results positive or negative
  
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02-09-2019, 07:11 AM

Are you under cutting in both directions?

I was under cutting shots to my right, and over cutting shots to my left. It took me a while to realize I was using the wrong eye to aim.

For years, I thought I was left eye dominant.
  
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02-10-2019, 05:53 AM

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Are you under cutting in both directions?

I was under cutting shots to my right, and over cutting shots to my left. It took me a while to realize I was using the wrong eye to aim.

For years, I thought I was left eye dominant.
Great spot to start. Might just be a slight adjustment on cue placement favouring 1 eye over the other.

How is the OP at making long slow rolling pots? This will help define issue with aim, stroke, etc. Hit CB up and down table back to cue to see if strikes cue coming back. Without video, its very difficult for us to say.. its "X".

Addressing speed, it takes as long as it takes. Nothing like getting down on a shot 100% confident it will go. No short cut for hitting balls and lots of them.
  
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02-10-2019, 06:00 AM

Once you are down on the shot on the undercut line, apply a "Touch Of Inside" and you will hit the center of the pocket.

(Now this belongs in the aiming section LOL).
  
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