I'll second this. No only does it have extreme low deflection, I love the fact that it's never going to get dinged up. The tip that comes with is a great tip. All in all, a very nice shaft. I had to wait so I could get the radial joint model.
How much more accurate are the REVO shafts?
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I'll second this. No only does it have extreme low deflection, I love the fact that it's never going to get dinged up. The tip that comes with is a great tip. All in all, a very nice shaft. I had to wait so I could get the radial joint model.
About a month ago, I got a chance to play with a Predator Revo cue that Evan Lunda uses for well over an hour by myself and it is in a class by itself.
The quote from Predator's website that I used to start this thread may be an understatement about the 5-10% "accuracy" or "precision" improvement over their third generation shafts..
I try not to get bogged down in terminology and try to let the cue's performance do the talking.
JoeyA
The quote from Predator's website that I used to start this thread may be an understatement about the 5-10% "accuracy" or "precision" improvement over their third generation shafts..
I try not to get bogged down in terminology and try to let the cue's performance do the talking.
JoeyA
Yes dang it.....I LOVE that Predator soft tip.
I've played a lot with my Revo and it's only gotten marginally harder.
So little you can hardly notice it and I break all the time with it.
A soft or super soft Kamui would hit like a phenolic by now....lol
They're just doing the two Uni-Loc's right now.
Don't know why.
Was Predator involved in inventing or marketing them?
I agree, hopefully they will add more in time. At this time, I believe they have limited capacity for production.
JoeyA
Seeing this cited I went to the web site to see what Predator says...
How much more accurate are the REVO shafts?
Predator REVO shafts are on average 5-10% more accurate than Predator’s third-generation shafts, depending on the velocity of the cue ball, distance to the object ball, and amount of spin used.
This kind of claim from a product manufacturer has the distinct whiff of BS. 5-10% more accurate than what exactly? What measurements were made? What kind of shots were hit? What scale was used? How were "accuracy" and "precision" defined?
Then to add all the "depending" caveats makes it even more BS-y.
You can market a shaft without using statistics that sound made up from whole cloth.
How much more accurate are the REVO shafts?
Predator REVO shafts are on average 5-10% more accurate than Predator’s third-generation shafts, depending on the velocity of the cue ball, distance to the object ball, and amount of spin used.
This kind of claim from a product manufacturer has the distinct whiff of BS. 5-10% more accurate than what exactly? What measurements were made? What kind of shots were hit? What scale was used? How were "accuracy" and "precision" defined?
Then to add all the "depending" caveats makes it even more BS-y.
You can market a shaft without using statistics that sound made up from whole cloth.
it keeps the suckers updating their equipment.
golf has done it for decades. every year they come out with new clubs that hit it 10% farther and more accurately. after all this time drives would be a thousand or more yards if their claims were true. yet the suckers buy a new set for a thousand or more every year and believe it helps their game.
golf has done it for decades. every year they come out with new clubs that hit it 10% farther and more accurately. after all this time drives would be a thousand or more yards if their claims were true. yet the suckers buy a new set for a thousand or more every year and believe it helps their game.
I believe I heard that they only plan on making it uni-lock & radial. I have 2 uni-lock 12.4mm & love them to death. I shoot with one & break with the other. Both have improved my game & I couldn't believe it since I was never a fan of ld shafts.
If they were to make other joint configurations in the future, I would definitely buy a 3/8x10 as all my customs have that pin.
I honestly bought a revo out of boredom & wanted to give it a try before I picked on it & the gimmick but I promise you it is awesome & made every aspect of my game better. I have 4 customs due to me this year & unless they make a 3/8x10 pin revo shaft by then, these 4 customs will spend most of their time in my 10x20 case at home.
Sure, the likelihood of knowledgeable people to use a product can be important. That doesn't have anything to do with contesting bizarre claims of a "percentage" improvement with no supporting evidence.
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I'm sure Predator does have data...the question is how did they arrive at that data, or as it's known to those familiar with scientific research, what is their methodology behind the data at which they arrived. Did they have Mike Sigel play with a Revo and then Stevie Wonder with a regular a 3rd Generation shaft? Hyberbole to be sure, but you get get my point.
I would imagine that technology and R&D has allowed them to make a shaft that's superior in its structural integrity and therefore (I guess) its consistency, but how that translates into the numbers they're using is a whole big, fat unanswered question. -Z-
Exactly.
"Less deflection" - believable. "More durable" - great. "More accurate" - what does that even mean? "5% more accurate" - give me a break.
Covfefe. Definitely Covfefe.
Ignorance is bliss I guess lol
So how much time have you spent playing with it that you know it's b.s. ? I didn't update to the 314/3 because I felt it wasn't any better. Slightly different hit but not worth spending $300 for a new shaft. This is not a marginal increase. This is like golf going from wooden heads clubs to metal. Lol this is going from the old small head drivers to the new over sized head. There is a big difference
I guess I have to wonder why some of THE BEST POOL PLAYERS IN THE WORLD are using REVO shafts.
I thought it was the Indian and not the Arrow.JoeyA
How many of those Pros are part of Team Predator either straight up on contract or via the payola type perks of Influence Marketing? Then there's the goal of marketing. I'm not saying this is a case of the Emporer's New Clothes, but who isn't looking for an edge? Predator has the budget & the expertise to reach player's and flex their cred. Those of the means are usually willing to spend to get an edge, even if they only believe half of a products claim.
Now to their credit, Predator has brought the cuestick from the dark ages and feature cues that are on par (bad pun) with the equivalent technology that's advanced the performance of today's golf clubs. It seems to me every other cuestick manufacturer out there is chasing Predator's advances. So for those out there who are old enough to remember, Predator is like E.F. Hutton, when they talk, people listen. That being said, I still would like to read the methodology behind the percentage claims. -Z-
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