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06-28-2020, 05:37 AM

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GARCZAR He's not great because I think he quit caring much about it 15 yrs ago IMO. Not saying he doesn't love the game. But life happens.
I was referring to your bs about playing one handed and eating a sandwich. In his prime JB was probably the best bar-box player alive. My point was he most likely used a system, probably GB, when he first started. He started pretty young and played a LOT of pool. His dad owned a place and Jesse was gambling when he was in early teens. I have no doubt that there are pool 'savants" that just see-n-make but its rare. Everyone i grew up with used GB to start and after a while you just remember shots and don't think about the overlaps when aiming. Again, what is your beef with how people make shots? BTW, thanks for capitalizing my name. Looks great. If you could add flashing lights next time it be even better.
  
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06-28-2020, 07:45 AM

I'm pretry close with his fam. He plays poker now.
  
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06-28-2020, 07:46 AM

And,yes he ran the table with phone scrunched between his shoulder and ear and,a sammich in his hand. He,put the sammich down for two shots
  
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06-28-2020, 10:20 AM

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people really use mumbo jumbo Whatever aiming system in tournament's ? The idea of a pro needing or using an aiming system that's identifiable is laughable. Your great and dont miss because u practice 6 hrs a day or more for 10 20 30 yrs.
If u need an "aiming system" to pocket balls at that point something is seriously wrong with your mental capacity.

Everything is Instinct and automatic. Look at the ball...make the ball. Lights out .....no thought needed.

What's the deal with people pushing these aiming systems? Do they have an agenda? Are they trying to make money by causing confusion?

Just some thoughts.
The vast majority of pool players are not pros nor aspire to be such and do not have 6 hours a day to practice nor would they if they did.

For this market things that help you visualize the shot line more effectively has value.

Who gives a damn about the pros? If the pool cue, accessory or training industries relied on the spending of pros they would have disappeared long ago. Pool is a fun game and amateurs who enjoy it are looking for techniques to help them be better. Not pros but better.

Aiming systems are useful in this capacity.
  
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06-29-2020, 08:41 AM

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people really use mumbo jumbo Whatever aiming system in tournament's ? The idea of a pro needing or using an aiming system that's identifiable is laughable. Your great and dont miss because u practice 6 hrs a day or more for 10 20 30 yrs.
If u need an "aiming system" to pocket balls at that point something is seriously wrong with your mental capacity.

Everything is Instinct and automatic. Look at the ball...make the ball. Lights out .....no thought needed.

What's the deal with people pushing these aiming systems? Do they have an agenda? Are they trying to make money by causing confusion?

Just some thoughts.
Most amateurs need an aim lesson if not a system--they aim to false pocket centers.

Some aim systems really help some students "shoot the lights out" as it's not automatic for everyone.

If what you say is true, have you ever given a lesson to a new or struggling player? Were they able to "automatically shoot the lights out" after you showed them how simple aim is?


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I think of it this way. Everyone has an approach to aiming. That approach goes from something that initially takes conscious effort and later on becomes more instinctive. Even when itís instinctive, thereís still an approach to it. Dropping your focus, going too willynilly and skipping your preshot routine can cost you the cheddar.

During the conscious phase of learning to aim, thereís advice people can take from others to build into their approach. It can be as abstract as ghost ball or mathematical as stick/ball overlap fractions. Whatever it is, it helps people get started. Every system has at least one person saying it improved their game. I believe them. And what works for one person doesnít sit well with another. Thatís okay. No system should advertise itíll make you as good as a pro. And itís okay to roll your eyes at any that do but you might as well let them have their fun.


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06-29-2020, 12:05 PM

New shooters I tell them to not even try to make a ball the first week. Just practice striking the whitey clean with no english. If they don't wanna do that I tel them they gonna have a hell of a time being more than a banger. All other instruction is pointless if they can't get consistent mechanics and hit the cueball clean
  
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06-29-2020, 12:12 PM

I have a drop stroke most of the time. But new players I tell them to stand however is comfy as long as they feel balanced and its in line with the shot...use the back elbow as a pedulum and don't drop it lIke i do. Get a solid bridge that's comfortable open or,closed I don't care. And just practice hitting the cue ball. And stroking straight. Players that do this right away. Are way ahead of the game when u start getting into aim and speed control
  
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New shooters I tell them to not even try to make a ball the first week. Just practice striking the whitey clean with no english. If they don't wanna do that I tel them they gonna have a hell of a time being more than a banger. All other instruction is pointless if they can't get consistent mechanics and hit the cueball clean
Having fun is an important part of learning and NO beginner is going to have any fun hitting the cue ball alone for a week. I hear people talk about doing that but I think it's mostly hot air, except maybe in your case. They want to impress people with their Zen approach to learning better than anyone else could. "I wasn't allowed to touch the cue ball for a year and then I had to meditate on the ball colors blindfolded and hung upside down and then after 5 years I was allowed to pocket a ball so that means I'm a much better player than you even though I suck. Oh, and I put myself through college playing pool, too." lol.


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Having fun is an important part of learning and NO beginner is going to have any fun hitting the cue ball alone for a week. I hear people talk about doing that but I think it's mostly hot air, except maybe in your case. They want to impress people with their Zen approach to learning better than anyone else could. "I wasn't allowed to touch the cue ball for a year and then I had to meditate on the ball colors blindfolded and hung upside down and then after 5 years I was allowed to pocket a ball so that means I'm a much better player than you even though I suck. Oh, and I put myself through college playing pool, too." lol.
I'm still waiting for Lowe's aiming video.
Didn't he say he was making one ?
  
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06-29-2020, 03:42 PM

You guys are funny. Practice and game play are two different things. If all you ever do is play games without practice...your not gonna improve like you should. And if all you ever do is practice. You'll probably fold up in gameplay.
I'm not stupid guys I'm 40 and have played for more than 30 yrs . I know what's going on. And if a poil virgin toughs it out and practices just hitting the cueball for 20 min here and there for a week. Trust me they are gonna smoke the guy that got all confused right away with CTE and English. When they start getting into the other aspects of the game
  
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06-29-2020, 04:33 PM

If you can see the chalk dust poof off the tip just as you make contact with the cue ball, you're focusing just about close enough.
  
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You guys are funny. Practice and game play are two different things. If all you ever do is play games without practice...your not gonna improve like you should. And if all you ever do is practice. You'll probably fold up in gameplay.
I'm not stupid guys I'm 40 and have played for more than 30 yrs . I know what's going on. And if a poil virgin toughs it out and practices just hitting the cueball for 20 min here and there for a week. Trust me they are gonna smoke the guy that got all confused right away with CTE and English. When they start getting into the other aspects of the game
We're glad you could inlighten us....most of us here don't quite understand all this aiming stuff.


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I'm still waiting for Lowe's aiming video.
Didn't he say he was making one ?
Now that you mention it, Low I mean Pete, I mean Joe, I mean Doug did say he was going to make a video.

Don't hold your breath!


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