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lathe and absolute beginner questions - 12-13-2018, 11:51 AM

Hi All,

I finally managed to get a hold a metal lathe.
It's an Emco Maximat v10-p.
First questions are around that.
My uncle got this from a neighbor about two years ago and knows it worked then.
Is there anything I should do/check/clean/lubricate before starting her up after just sitting for awhile?

Second question, what now?
Long term goal is to build full cues. I was thinking of getting started with joint protectors just to learn my way around the lathe and not waste a bunch of material.
What are the bare minimum tools I need to get started? What sources do you recommend for these?

Any literature or guides you guys would recommend?

Thanks for any help.
  
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12-13-2018, 12:17 PM

1st thing I'd say is SAFETY, buy some eye protection get to know your machine and scour the forums

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12-13-2018, 12:23 PM

Search youtube for videos of someone using that model lathe....


Player- T.K.O. Custom Sneaky
Breaker- T.K.O. Custom Sneaky
Jump- T.K.O. Custom Jump
  
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12-13-2018, 12:26 PM

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1st thing I'd say is SAFETY, buy some eye protection get to know your machine and scour the forums

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Thanks. I have other woodworking tools and have a healthy respect for the machinery.
I will take it slow and learn all I can.

Funny you mention it, i was scouring old manuals, wiring diagrams, and came across an old brochure for this lathe, and one of the pictures made me stop and say, man times were different.
No way this picture would make it into any publication now w/o eye protection. Who needs two eyes anyways?

  
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12-13-2018, 12:30 PM

Ouch,but it's a ton of fun and satisfaction when you make stuff...

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12-13-2018, 03:42 PM

Emco's are nice high quality lathes - nice score.

80 - 90% of this manual will have little application to your interest, but it has been the classic for beginners for almost a century. Skim it, and maybe you'll pick up some tidbits. Skip down to chapter 4 and later and there is useful info on cutting tools, setting the tool height so it cuts effectively, measuring, and setting the lathe up to cut straight or tapered as well as other general info.

http://www.campkahler.com/files/how_...he_sb_1of2.pdf

An awful lot of people with both woodworking and metal working machines limit themselves because they have no facility for making/grinding/sharpening the cutting tools. Buy inserts for production processes, but being able to make any tool you need, to whatever low or high level necessary for the app (quick grind for one time use, or something a little better refined for repeat set ups, or something in between) opens all sorts of possibilities. I'd get a modern Aloris clone or similar tool post. But i'd still reccommend learning how to grind tools to use in the holders as you go along, besides inserts or preground tools.

Good idea to start with joint protectors - satisfying, useful, and includes many lathe operations including some relatively complex ones like threading and perhaps shaping with shop ground form tools. Also, workholding and how to swap parts in and out of the lathe while maintaining concentricity.

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12-13-2018, 04:05 PM

nice lathe.
small bore.

If it has been sitting a while you might want to change the fluids.
Learn to grind and sharpen your own tool bits.
Get a good tool post like Aloris.
A collet chuck for the head stock. Conventional clucks are not as accurate.

George Balabushka made fine cues without a large bore lathe. It just took longer.

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12-13-2018, 06:51 PM

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Hi All,
Second question, what now?
Long term goal is to build full cues. I was thinking of getting started with joint protectors just to learn my way around the lathe and not waste a bunch of material.
What are the bare minimum tools I need to get started? What sources do you recommend for these?

Any literature or guides you guys would recommend?

Thanks for any help.
Most of your cue specific questions will be answered by this:

https://www.cuesmith.com/the-cue-bui...rade-show.html
  
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Welcome - 12-13-2018, 08:55 PM

As you work on getting the lathe set up to start building, take a day off the lathe, and start buying wood. Then buy some more wood, and then buy some more wood.
  
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12-13-2018, 09:24 PM

Dude we needa talk


Ive got jp wood i started making some last yr
Ive still got some pins and ive got a tap

Ive got butt anf shaft wood
Got some black plastic material for the jps also

And im a machinist

And I have the chris Hightower cue making book

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12-14-2018, 10:07 AM

Thanks everyone for the tips and resources.
That old PDF is very cool. reading through that now.
Excited to get going.
  
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12-14-2018, 10:08 AM

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Ive got jp wood i started making some last yr
Ive still got some pins and ive got a tap

Ive got butt anf shaft wood
Got some black plastic material for the jps also

And im a machinist

And I have the chris Hightower cue making book
Richard, been too long. I will text you.
  
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12-14-2018, 12:21 PM

I have a set of manuals on a disc that will help. It's mainly for Atlas lathes, but it covers the basics of setup, operating, and has charts etc. One of the files is Manual Of Lathe operations by Atlas, another, more generic, is How to run a lathe, by Southbend, it has a lot of helpful stuff. Pm me your address and I'll send it to you. You can print it or just read it from the pdf.
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12-14-2018, 02:56 PM

I will mirror what everyone else has already said regarding safety, maintenance, and learning the basic operations you can perform on your lathe. Now speaking to you in the future wanting to build cues I would say start off first by learning the basic and most often performed repair procedures. Learn to install tips, ferrules, clean shafts, install wraps, joint pin/insert install and what not, those will be skills you will need to know for every single cue you decide to build and its a good way to familiarize yourself on some of the basic operations of the lathe at the same time.
  
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12-14-2018, 09:13 PM

I recommend you take a machine trades class to get familiar with the lathe. Safety first. Books are helpful but hands on training is the best
  
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