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Talking Orcollo might try to beat the 626 record - 06-01-2019, 05:50 PM

Just saw this post from the owner of Buffalo's in New Orleans

He might put up 10k and let Dennis try to break the 626

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06-01-2019, 05:52 PM

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Just saw this post from the owner of Buffalo's in New Orleans

He might put up 10k and let Dennis try to break the 626

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That would be something, imagine the record being broken twice in the same month, lol
  
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06-01-2019, 06:19 PM

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Just saw this post from the owner of Buffalo's in New Orleans

He might put up 10k and let Dennis try to break the 626

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You think they'd pay out if he (John Schmidt) beat his own record?
  
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06-01-2019, 06:34 PM

It wouldn't surprise me even a little, if Dennis pulled it off.
Efren either in his prime.
Money will motivate people who can, but who normally wouldn't be interested.
  
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06-01-2019, 06:53 PM

Id vote for Filler having the best chance of the current players to beat the 626.
  
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06-01-2019, 06:57 PM

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It wouldn't surprise me even a little, if Dennis pulled it off.
Efren either in his prime.
Money will motivate people who can, but who normally wouldn't be interested.
It would surprise me a lot. Though he runs a lot of balls at DCC, 260 this year on tough tables, Dennis has very limited experience playing straight pool. He definitely has the stamina and the ability to concentrate for the length of a very long run, but I just don't see it happening.

The list of pros who play straight pool year round is a short one indeed and I just can't see anyone who doesn't play loads of straight pool exceeding John's run. With the straight pool era 35 years in the rear view mirror and so little prize money available in straight pool today, why should we expect anyone to make such a commitment?

Several have noted that Willie's record lasted over 60 years, and I think John's record may well last as long, maybe even forever unless someone put up a million dollars or there is another straight pool era.
  
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06-01-2019, 07:07 PM

I got nothing against Dennis and it would make for some interesting drama
in the pool world, but I kind of hope he doesn't do this.

I feel like Dennis breaking that record would have the unintended consequence
of keeping John out of the Hall of Fame.

I mean, I have no idea if he's going in there, but I feel confident saying he ISN'T
if the record gets broken by someone else right away.
  
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06-01-2019, 07:16 PM

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It would surprise me a lot. Though he runs a lot of balls at DCC, 260 this year on tough tables, Dennis has very limited experience playing straight pool. He definitely has the stamina and the ability to concentrate for the length of a very long run, but I just don't see it happening.

The list of pros who play straight pool year round is a short one indeed and I just can't see anyone who doesn't play loads of straight pool exceeding John's run. With the straight pool era 35 years in the rear view mirror and so little prize money available in straight pool today, why should we expect anyone to make such a commitment?

Several have noted that Willie's record lasted over 60 years, and I think John's record may well last as long, maybe even forever unless someone put up a million dollars or there is another straight pool era.
In the 60+ years that Mosconi's record stood, how many SERIOUS attempts were made at besting it?

John's attempts are the only ones I've heard about...where a player dedicated numerous days and hours to the endeavor.

Are there other attempts that we haven't heard about?

If so, do tell.
  
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06-01-2019, 07:20 PM

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I got nothing against Dennis and it would make for some interesting drama
in the pool world, but I kind of hope he doesn't do this.

I feel like Dennis breaking that record would have the unintended consequence
of keeping John out of the Hall of Fame.

I mean, I have no idea if he's going in there, but I feel confident saying he ISN'T
if the record gets broken by someone else right away.
I hope he does go for it.

Up until John did it, I don't think anybody put enough time into it to see if it was something that could be done.

Now that John has done it, the mystery is gone.
  
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06-01-2019, 07:26 PM

Dennis ran 260 at the Derby on much tighter equipment than the 626 was set on, if he tried for a week it would be very interesting to see what he could do.

I do know the way Dennis pockets balls give him a loose table and a pile of cash if he does it would be fun to sweat
  
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06-01-2019, 07:27 PM

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In the 60+ years that Mosconi's record stood, how many SERIOUS attempts were made at besting it?

John's attempts are the only ones I've heard about...where a player dedicated numerous days and hours to the endeavor.

Are there other attempts that we haven't heard about?

If so, do tell.
During the straight pool era, many of the top pros played straight pool nearly every day, some of it alone and some of it with an opponent. Beyond the most obvious Babe Cranfield, Gene Nagy and Mike Eufemia are two examples of such players, but there were many others.

I'm with you that in the last thirty years, few top pros have dedicated numerous days at a time to making a really high run.
  
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06-01-2019, 07:48 PM

I listened to the Cue it Up podcast a few days ago where they interviewed John. He mentioned that another pro made what he considered an obnoxious statement about breaking the new 626 record and doing it in a week. John wouldn’t say the name, but maybe it was Dennis. He said most of the other pros, like Thornston, were very respectful and congratulated John, but this one pro was kinda dismissive of it and (at least John thought) greatly underestimated the difficulty of doing it.
  
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06-01-2019, 07:50 PM

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Just saw this post from the owner of Buffalo's in New Orleans

He might put up 10k and let Dennis try to break the 626

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I will tell you there is not question than many in his circle believes he can as have been told such , I'd be surprised that 10k is enough motivation , if someone put up say 50k to anyone who can beat it , I'd bet you would get many trying


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06-01-2019, 07:53 PM

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In the 60+ years that Mosconi's record stood, how many SERIOUS attempts were made at besting it?

John's attempts are the only ones I've heard about...where a player dedicated numerous days and hours to the endeavor.

Are there other attempts that we haven't heard about?

If so, do tell.
I've Earl talk about several pros trying to beat it but gave up for the very reason Stu brought up:

Any ball, any pocket....at any time....lol....sounds easy and it is until you start running balls and get to the next break shot....that is where, as we all know, people, even pros....fall by the waste side.

So, to answer your question in more detail:

All of the 70s, 80s, 90s and most of the top pros of 2000s have "tried" but, not "hard enough". As in, they didn't stop their entire life and try. If all of them had, the record would have fell long ago.


I knew a fellow that thought he was a good boxer because he was in a position to befriend a lot of "professional boxers". It cost him azzwhippens till he realized he wasn't what he thought/wished he was.

Do you know anyone like the "wannabe" boxer in the pool world?
  
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06-01-2019, 07:54 PM

I said it before, it will take a 100k reward for a pro that is not in love with straight pool to try a concerted effort. Otherwise, they will stay in bed 10k or 20k won't cut it.

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