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05-31-2019, 06:50 AM

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I have been carefully avoiding my suspicion. Now that you mention it, john was shaking like a bird dog crapping peach pits when he got above 450 the first time. I'm not curious enough to watch the video but was john nice and mellow this time? Poker players take a certain drug like it's aspirin! Video is wonderful technology, so is drug testing. If I set a world record and was clean when I did it I would rush to a lab to bury any question of PED's. Modern technology just like the video.

Having had personal dealings with john a few times I know he has the balls of a bull gerbil if that isn't insulting gerbils. All of a sudden turning in a hero performance far beyond what he was ever able to do before does look very unlikely.

Now, don't you wish you had let sleeping dogs lie?

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05-31-2019, 06:57 AM

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Maybe stop talking about “haters” and grow up a little. Nobody disrespects the achievement.
Have you been on Facebook? There are a bunch of haters. Pretty sad, actually.


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john, john, john - 05-31-2019, 06:58 AM

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If you knew John personally you would know how far off base you are.
I know that years after we had any dealings with each other I wasn't on facebook a few hours before john typed three few line posts in a row attacking me then gloated over being able to block me there, unlike message forums. he looked a lot like the little boy on the school ground that runs up and hits somebody in the back and then goes hide behind the teacher.

I also know john got his whacker in a twist so badly over making an ass out of himself right here on AZB that he had his friend physically stalk me. The plan was supposedly for the two to physically attack me once they knew how to find me. john was living in Florida at the time and his friend near me. Seemed about par for the course, a pair of them needed to jump one old man.

john has set a record. Few if any will dispute that. Some like I will wonder how he suddenly posted a run far better than his recent personal best set in weeks of intense effort after twenty years of chasing the record. 490 was a significant outlier in itself. I suspect that with the pressure he had placed on himself and the incentives offered he might have gotten a little creative to get over the line. Nobody but john will know for sure and most pool players won't care if he cooked the books a bit or not. Pool has a long history of chem players. Did he or didn't he? I didn't care enough to bring the issue up but considering all the things that could mellow him out a bit I suspect his nerves might have been aided a little. Nobody will ever know and few if any will care.

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05-31-2019, 07:22 AM

If you get in confrontations repeatedly over stuff on the internet, perhaps it’s you that has the problem, not everyone else.

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05-31-2019, 07:31 AM

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If you get in confrontations repeatedly over stuff on the internet, perhaps it’s you that has the problem, not everyone else.

And the post about drugs was a cheap shot.
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Disgusting - 05-31-2019, 08:31 AM

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I know that years after we had any dealings with each other I wasn't on facebook a few hours before john typed three few line posts in a row attacking me then gloated over being able to block me there, unlike message forums. he looked a lot like the little boy on the school ground that runs up and hits somebody in the back and then goes hide behind the teacher.
I also know john got his whacker in a twist so badly over making an ass out of himself right here on AZB that he had his friend physically stalk me. The plan was supposedly for the two to physically attack me once they knew how to find me. john was living in Florida at the time and his friend near me. Seemed about par for the course, a pair of them needed to jump one old man.
john has set a record. Few if any will dispute that. Some like I will wonder how he suddenly posted a run far better than his recent personal best set in weeks of intense effort after twenty years of chasing the record. 490 was a significant outlier in itself. I suspect that with the pressure he had placed on himself and the incentives offered he might have gotten a little creative to get over the line. Nobody but john will know for sure and most pool players won't care if he cooked the books a bit or not. Pool has a long history of chem players. Did he or didn't he? I didn't care enough to bring the issue up but considering all the things that could mellow him out a bit I suspect his nerves might have been aided a little. Nobody will ever know and few if any will care.
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Man oh man, you sure know how to put in effort to start trouble and be ugly about something.
How many 'books' have YOU cooked? You seem to know something about "how to spot that process".
The man did it fair....he deserves the utmost courtesy. It goes with winning.
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I think so too - 05-31-2019, 08:43 AM

Indeed, people that get in confrontations over and over on the net have a problem, like say john. I didn't know or care that he was on facebook. He posted three attacks and blocked me before I posted a single word about him. Definitely not my problem! I wasn't the one that had him physically stalked after internet words either.

I laughed when I made the first post in this thread knowing it would get all the fan boys of john's knickers in a twist. The fact remains that nothing in his past history indicated he could come with a 626. In fact, hundreds of tries strongly indicated he couldn't. Anyone that gives it two minutes thought and doesn't at least wonder a little might be the ones that are a bit willfully blind.

Those that are excited about the record might be better off to admire the accomplishment and not spend too much time thinking about the way it came to be. Without video nobody would believe the 626 possible, not even those attacking me now. It isn't unreasonable to wonder even with video how the seeming impossible was accomplished.

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05-31-2019, 08:54 AM

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Indeed, people that get in confrontations over and over on the net have a problem, like say john. I didn't know or care that he was on facebook. He posted three attacks and blocked me before I posted a single word about him. Definitely not my problem! I wasn't the one that had him physically stalked after internet words either.

I laughed when I made the first post in this thread knowing it would get all the fan boys of john's knickers in a twist. The fact remains that nothing in his past history indicated he could come with a 626. In fact, hundreds of tries strongly indicated he couldn't. Anyone that gives it two minutes thought and doesn't at least wonder a little might be the ones that are a bit willfully blind.

Those that are excited about the record might be better off to admire the accomplishment and not spend too much time thinking about the way it came to be. Without video nobody would believe the 626 possible, not even those attacking me now. It isn't unreasonable to wonder even with video how the seeming impossible was accomplished.

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Lol, this is a weird statement. His high run can’t get higher? Especially after months of attempts. Nothing changes there in his game? Like I said before, and it’s true...anyone who can run 100-150 can run 1000. It’s just that it’s extremely unlikely that all the pieces will fall into place within the necessary time frame (maybe your 20’s to 50’s) you have to get lucky on all fronts, have the knowledge and skill, and not get unlucky. And have the stamina, drive, and belief.

John gave himself mad opportunities for that to happen with these sessions and it finally did.

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05-31-2019, 08:55 AM

Maybe.
I argued that 526 stood so long because the great players today are not paid to play 14.1 anymore.
Nobody gets paid to tour all over to play 14.1.
Kudos to JS for doing it on his dime.
For his sanity, I hope he stops though.

626 will be the official new record as soon as the Guinness announces it.
You can argue all you want about the details against it over the 526.

I think 626 is going to stand longer than 526.


  
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05-31-2019, 09:00 AM

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Indeed, people that get in confrontations over and over on the net have a problem, like say john. I didn't know or care that he was on facebook. He posted three attacks and blocked me before I posted a single word about him. Definitely not my problem! I wasn't the one that had him physically stalked after internet words either.

I laughed when I made the first post in this thread knowing it would get all the fan boys of john's knickers in a twist. The fact remains that nothing in his past history indicated he could come with a 626. In fact, hundreds of tries strongly indicated he couldn't. Anyone that gives it two minutes thought and doesn't at least wonder a little might be the ones that are a bit willfully blind.

Those that are excited about the record might be better off to admire the accomplishment and not spend too much time thinking about the way it came to be. Without video nobody would believe the 626 possible, not even those attacking me now. It isn't unreasonable to wonder even with video how the seeming impossible was accomplished.

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I don't know...I've personally "caught a gear" and played above how I normally play; nerves, bad thoughts, everything out the window and just played. I did it wthout any substance, it just happened. I think the same can be said for John. Sounds like your personal vendetta against the man could be clouding your perception, which is understandable. I think he deserves the benefit of any doubt. IMO, he was in the zone on the clean.


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05-31-2019, 10:14 AM

Implied billiards-related use of performance enhancement via drugs? Discussion of stalking and threats of physical assault? Specific slanderous and conceivably libelous exchanges between two players?

When the moderator(s) finds the time to read this particular thread he/she/they must decide whether this thread should remain. How does our beloved, creative and beautiful sport benefit from this kind of totally negative, injurious, and unproductive public discussion about issues that can't possibly be resolved here ?

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05-31-2019, 10:28 AM

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I have been carefully avoiding my suspicion. Now that you mention it, john was shaking like a bird dog crapping peach pits when he got above 450 the first time. I'm not curious enough to watch the video but was john nice and mellow this time? Poker players take a certain drug like it's aspirin! Video is wonderful technology, so is drug testing. If I set a world record and was clean when I did it I would rush to a lab to bury any question of PED's. Modern technology just like the video.

Having had personal dealings with john a few times I know he has the balls of a bull gerbil if that isn't insulting gerbils. All of a sudden turning in a hero performance far beyond what he was ever able to do before does look very unlikely.

Now, don't you wish you had let sleeping dogs lie?

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Have you been on Facebook? There are a bunch of haters. Pretty sad, actually.
getting on facebook was your first mistake, paying attention to anything said there is a second mistake.....

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But.......but.........John was using performance enhancing cue chalk!!!
  
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