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Stats -- Van Boening vs. Orcollo 10-Ball Race to 120, November 2019 - 11-09-2019, 11:15 PM

Here are some results from the Shane Van Boening vs. Dennis Orcollo 10-Ball match played at First Break Sports Bar in Sterling, Virginia on November 7-9, 2019. Pay-per-view streaming was provided by UpState AL for Roy's Basement. The commentators were Josh Roberts, Chip Klein, and Allan Leon.

This match was a race to 120 game wins played over 3 days. Van Boening outscored Orcollo each day and won 120 - 85. The scores each day were:
  • Day 1 -- 40 - 29
    Day 2 -- 40 - 23 (2-day total 80-52)
    Day 3 -- 40 - 33
    Total -- 120 - 85

Conditions -- The conditions for this event included:
  • - Diamond 9-foot table with pro-cut pockets and fairly new Simonis blue cloth;
    - Aramith balls with a measles cue ball;
    - Accu-Rack racking template;
    - rack your own, with the 1-ball on the foot spot and the 2-ball and 3-ball on the back corners;
    - winner breaks from anywhere behind the head string;
    - call shots (but not safes), with the opponent having a choice of shooting or passing it back after a ball is pocketed illegally;
    - spot any 10-ball made on the break;
    - early combos or caroms on the 10-ball are not game wins, and the 10-ball is spotted;
    - cue ball fouls only, and 3-foul rule in effect;
    - jump cues allowed;
    - no shot clock; and
    - lag for opening break.

■ Van Boening broke 119 times -- successful 106 times (resulting in 72 game wins and 34 losses), 3 fouls (1 win, 2 losses), and 10 dry (5 wins, 5 losses).

■ Orcollo broke 86 times -- successful 58 times (resulting in 37 game wins and 21 losses), 9 fouls (1 win, 8 losses), and 19 dry (6 wins and 13 losses).

Successful breaks (made at least one ball and did not foul):
  • Van Boening -- 106 of 119 (89%)
  • Orcollo -- 58 of 86 (67%)
  • Total -- 164 of 205 (80%)

Unsuccessful breaks (fouled or dry):
  • Van Boening -- 13 of 119 (11%)
  • Orcollo -- 28 of 86 (33%)
  • Total -- 41 of 205 (20%)

Breaker won game:
  • Van Boening -- 78 of 119 (66%)
  • Orcollo -- 44 of 86 (51%)
  • Total -- 122 of 205 (60%)

Break-and-run games -- on all breaks:
  • Van Boening -- 52 of 119 (44%)
  • Orcollo -- 24 of 86 (28%)
  • Total -- 76 of 205 (37%)

Break-and-run games -- on successful breaks (made at least one ball and did not foul):
  • Van Boening -- 52 of 106 (49%)
  • Orcollo -- 24 of 58 (41%)
  • Total -- 76 of 164 (46%)

Fouls and foul rates: [Note: "games at the table" means total games less opponent's B&R games.]
  • Van Boening -- 13 fouls, including 3 on the break, in 181 games at the table (a rate of 1 foul for every 13.9 games at the table)
  • Orcollo -- 23 fouls, including 9 on the break, in 153 games at the table (a rate of 1 foul for every 6.7 games at the table)
  • Total -- 36 fouls in 205 games (1 per 5.7 games)

Missed shots (est.):
  • Van Boening -- 54 misses in 181 games at the table (a rate of 1 for every 3.4 games at the table)
  • Orcollo -- 36 misses in 153 games at the table (a rate of 1 for every 4.3 games at the table)
  • Total -- 90 misses in 205 games (1 per 2.3 games)

Run-outs from first shot after break:
  • By Van Boening after his own successful break -- 52 of 106 (49%)
  • By Van Boening after Orcollo's failed break -- 17 of 28 (61%)
  • By Van Boening, total -- 69 of 134 (51%)

  • By Orcollo after his own successful break -- 24 of 58 (41%)
  • By Orcollo after Van Boening's failed break -- 3 of 13 (23%)
  • By Orcollo, total -- 27 of 71 (38%)

  • Total for Van Boening and Orcollo -- 96 of 205 (47%)

Run-outs from first shot after Van Boening's break:
  • By Van Boening -- 52 of 106 (49%)
  • By Orcollo -- 3 of 13 (23%)
  • Total -- 55 of 119 (46%)

Run-outs from first shot after Orcollo's break:
  • By Orcollo -- 24 of 58 (41%)
  • By Van Boening -- 17 of 28 (61%)
  • Total -- 41 of 86 (48%)

Break-and-run packages
  • Van Boening's 52 B&R games consisted of 6 3-packs, 8 2-packs, and 18 singles
    Orcollo's 24 B&R games consisted of 4 3-packs, 2 2-packs, and 8 singles

Games with 1 or more safeties (est):
  • by Van Boening only -- 20
  • by Orcollo only -- 23
  • by both -- 25
  • Total games with 1 or more safeties -- 33% (68 of 205)

Average number of balls made on the break:
  • Van Boening -- 1.6 on all breaks, 1.7 on successful breaks
  • Orcollo -- 1.3 on all breaks, 1.6 on successful breaks
  • Total -- 1.4 on all breaks, 1.7 on successful breaks

Number of innings -- 58% (119 of 205) of the games ended in one inning. 76 games ended on the breaker's first inning (B&R games), 43 games ended on the non-breaker's first inning, 31 games ended on the breaker's second inning, and 24 games ended on the non-breaker's second inning. 15% (31 of 205) of the games went beyond the non-breaker's second visit to the table, with the longest game ending on the breaker's 9th visit.

10-balls on the break -- No 10-balls were made on the break. (They would have been spotted.)

Match length -- Approximately 19 1/3 hours, for an average of 5.7 minutes per game. This includes racking and timeouts, but excludes about 36 minutes for 3 intermissions (1 on Day 2 and 2 on Day 3, one of which was for a fire alarm).
  
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11-09-2019, 11:17 PM

Thank you for doing this!

I think this is the only stat that matters. Shaw was close to SVB in the B&R category. Anyone under 40% need not apply.


Break-and-run games -- on all breaks:
Van Boening -- 52 of 119 (44%)
Orcollo -- 24 of 86 (28%)
Total -- 76 of 205 (37%)


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I think this is the only stat that matters. Shaw was close to SVB in the B&R category. Anyone under 40% need not apply.


Break-and-run games -- on all breaks:
Van Boening -- 52 of 119 (44%)
Orcollo -- 24 of 86 (28%)
Total -- 76 of 205 (37%)
Chang was under 40% in their match 6 months ago (37% to SVB's 48%) and still won.
  
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Chang was under 40% in their match 6 months ago (37% to SVB's 48%) and still won.
I was speaking in general terms. Chang is an exceptional player that was close to 40% and won in a race to 50.

I'm not suggesting that he wouldn't win in a longer set, simply that I'd expect his run out percentage to creep up a little.


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I was speaking in general terms. Chang is an exceptional player that was close to 40% and won in a race to 50.

I'm not suggesting that he wouldn't win in a longer set, simply that I'd expect his run out percentage to creep up a little.
Could be. The numbers there were still pretty small (49 breaks for Chang, 44 for SVB). And a referee racked that match (using an Accu-Rack template, as in this current match).

I probably don't have info on a lot of tournament matches involving Chang, but maybe I'll see what I can find.
  
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Chang was under 40% in their match 6 months ago (37% to SVB's 48%) and still won.
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11-10-2019, 05:26 AM

Enjoyed your statistics....This one tho....''Stuck Out''.



■ Van Boening broke 119 times -- successful 106 times


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■ Van Boening broke 119 times -- successful 106 times
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Here are some results from the Shane Van Boening vs. Dennis Orcollo 10-Ball match played at First Break Sports Bar in Sterling, Virginia on November 7-9, 2019. Pay-per-view streaming was provided by UpState AL for Roy's Basement. The commentators were Josh Roberts, Chip Klein, and Allan Leon.

This match was a race to 120 game wins played over 3 days. Van Boening outscored Orcollo each day and won 120 - 85. The scores each day were:
  • Day 1 -- 40 - 29
    Day 2 -- 40 - 23 (2-day total 80-52)
    Day 3 -- 40 - 33
    Total -- 120 - 85

Conditions -- The conditions for this event included:
  • - Diamond 9-foot table with pro-cut pockets and fairly new Simonis blue cloth;
    - Aramith balls with a measles cue ball;
    - Accu-Rack racking template;
    - rack your own, with the 1-ball on the foot spot and the 2-ball and 3-ball on the back corners;
    - winner breaks from anywhere behind the head string;
    - call shots (but not safes), with the opponent having a choice of shooting or passing it back after a ball is pocketed illegally;
    - spot any 10-ball made on the break;
    - early combos or caroms on the 10-ball are not game wins, and the 10-ball is spotted;
    - cue ball fouls only, and 3-foul rule in effect;
    - jump cues allowed;
    - no shot clock; and
    - lag for opening break.

■ Van Boening broke 119 times -- successful 106 times (resulting in 72 game wins and 34 losses), 3 fouls (1 win, 2 losses), and 10 dry (5 wins, 5 losses).

■ Orcollo broke 86 times -- successful 58 times (resulting in 37 game wins and 21 losses), 9 fouls (1 win, 8 losses), and 19 dry (6 wins and 13 losses).

Successful breaks (made at least one ball and did not foul):
  • Van Boening -- 106 of 119 (89%)
  • Orcollo -- 58 of 86 (67%)
  • Total -- 164 of 205 (80%)

Unsuccessful breaks (fouled or dry):
  • Van Boening -- 13 of 119 (11%)
  • Orcollo -- 28 of 86 (33%)
  • Total -- 41 of 205 (20%)

Breaker won game:
  • Van Boening -- 78 of 119 (66%)
  • Orcollo -- 44 of 86 (51%)
  • Total -- 122 of 205 (60%)

Break-and-run games -- on all breaks:
  • Van Boening -- 52 of 119 (44%)
  • Orcollo -- 24 of 86 (28%)
  • Total -- 76 of 205 (37%)

Break-and-run games -- on successful breaks (made at least one ball and did not foul):
  • Van Boening -- 52 of 106 (49%)
  • Orcollo -- 24 of 58 (41%)
  • Total -- 76 of 164 (46%)

Fouls and foul rates: [Note: "games at the table" means total games less opponent's B&R games.]
  • Van Boening -- 13 fouls, including 3 on the break, in 181 games at the table (a rate of 1 foul for every 13.9 games at the table)
  • Orcollo -- 23 fouls, including 9 on the break, in 153 games at the table (a rate of 1 foul for every 6.7 games at the table)
  • Total -- 36 fouls in 205 games (1 per 5.7 games)

Missed shots (est.):
  • Van Boening -- 54 misses in 181 games at the table (a rate of 1 for every 3.4 games at the table)
  • Orcollo -- 36 misses in 153 games at the table (a rate of 1 for every 4.3 games at the table)
  • Total -- 90 misses in 205 games (1 per 2.3 games)

Run-outs from first shot after break:
  • By Van Boening after his own successful break -- 52 of 106 (49%)
  • By Van Boening after Orcollo's failed break -- 17 of 28 (61%)
  • By Van Boening, total -- 69 of 134 (51%)

  • By Orcollo after his own successful break -- 24 of 58 (41%)
  • By Orcollo after Van Boening's failed break -- 3 of 13 (23%)
  • By Orcollo, total -- 27 of 71 (38%)

  • Total for Van Boening and Orcollo -- 96 of 205 (47%)

Run-outs from first shot after Van Boening's break:
  • By Van Boening -- 52 of 106 (49%)
  • By Orcollo -- 3 of 13 (23%)
  • Total -- 55 of 119 (46%)

Run-outs from first shot after Orcollo's break:
  • By Orcollo -- 24 of 58 (41%)
  • By Van Boening -- 17 of 28 (61%)
  • Total -- 41 of 86 (48%)

Break-and-run packages
  • Van Boening's 52 B&R games consisted of 6 3-packs, 8 2-packs, and 18 singles
    Orcollo's 24 B&R games consisted of 4 3-packs, 2 2-packs, and 8 singles

Games with 1 or more safeties (est):
  • by Van Boening only -- 20
  • by Orcollo only -- 23
  • by both -- 25
  • Total games with 1 or more safeties -- 33% (68 of 205)

Average number of balls made on the break:
  • Van Boening -- 1.6 on all breaks, 1.7 on successful breaks
  • Orcollo -- 1.3 on all breaks, 1.6 on successful breaks
  • Total -- 1.4 on all breaks, 1.7 on successful breaks

Number of innings -- 58% (119 of 205) of the games ended in one inning. 76 games ended on the breaker's first inning (B&R games), 43 games ended on the non-breaker's first inning, 31 games ended on the breaker's second inning, and 24 games ended on the non-breaker's second inning. 15% (31 of 205) of the games went beyond the non-breaker's second visit to the table, with the longest game ending on the breaker's 9th visit.

10-balls on the break -- No 10-balls were made on the break. (They would have been spotted.)

Match length -- Approximately 19 1/3 hours, for an average of 5.7 minutes per game. This includes racking and timeouts, but excludes about 36 minutes for 3 intermissions (1 on Day 2 and 2 on Day 3, one of which was for a fire alarm).
I found one stat very interesting. After over 200 games, not one ten ball was made on the break! So someone tell me again why the ten ball shouldn't count if made on the break. But the nine ball does count.


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I found one stat very interesting. After over 200 games, not one ten ball was made on the break! So someone tell me again why the ten ball shouldn't count if made on the break. But the nine ball does count.
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11-10-2019, 06:21 AM

Stats are incredible - thanks!

No idea what this means: "- early combos or caroms on the 10-ball are not game wins, and the 10-ball is spotted"

What is "early", lol? Seems like an odd definitional distinction, not that they can't agree on pretty much whatever they want.
  
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11-10-2019, 06:24 AM

And just out of curiosity, is a stat ever kept for how often after a played safety the other player ends up making a legal ball?
  
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Stats are incredible - thanks!

No idea what this means: "- early combos or caroms on the 10-ball are not game wins, and the 10-ball is spotted"

What is "early", lol? Seems like an odd definitional distinction, not that they can't agree on pretty much whatever they want.
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