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Toby Sweet - 09-15-2013, 05:31 AM

Anyone remember,know or play with a hustler named Toby Sweet?
  
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09-15-2013, 06:07 AM

yes.......................cool dude.

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09-15-2013, 06:21 AM

Many thought him to be the best in the World way back in mid 70's. He still plays but rarely gambles.
  
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09-15-2013, 07:05 AM

Back in 1988 I lived on my sail boat docked behind his apartment. He had a pool hall in Hollywood Fla. at the time, where he gave me a few lessons.
If anyone has his phone number, please PM me!

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Here are a few pics of Toby - 09-15-2013, 07:44 AM

I have a few pics of him.







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09-15-2013, 07:49 AM

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Anyone remember,know or play with a hustler named Toby Sweet?
Played him and saw him play many times. Back when he was at his best he played 9 ball about as good as the game could be played. I am not talking about this guy was better then that guy or any of that, I am talking about from a technical stand point. His overall pool game was perfect. He did very little, no unnecessary movements or strange habits, his game was flawless. This was later evidenced buy how well he played after years of not playing at all. He just picked up a stick again and went back to his very simplistic way of playing and it still worked.

I have been around pool for over 50 years and I would say of all the players I have seen play, Toby would be the best for any player trying to learn the game to emulate. It seems like every player regardless of who they are from world champ to banger have some bad or goofy habits or quirks. Toby has none. He makes the hardest things look easy. In fact after watching him for a short while he makes "anyone" watching feel like they could just pick up a cue and do it to. Im not kidding, just watching him play will make your game jump up. I am running out of words to explain how good his game was.
  
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Played him and saw him play many times. Back when he was at his best he played 9 ball about as good as the game could be played. I am not talking about this guy was better then that guy or any of that, I am talking about from a technical stand point. His overall pool game was perfect. He did very little, no unnecessary movements or strange habits, his game was flawless. This was later evidenced buy how well he played after years of not playing at all. He just picked up a stick again and went back to his very simplistic way of playing and it still worked.

I have been around pool for over 50 years and I would say of all the players I have seen play, Toby would be the best for any player trying to learn the game to emulate. It seems like every player regardless of who they are from world champ to banger have some bad or goofy habits or quirks. Toby has none. He makes the hardest things look easy. In fact after watching him for a short while he makes "anyone" watching feel like they could just pick up a cue and do it to. Im not kidding, just watching him play will make your game jump up. I am running out of words to explain how good his game was.
Exactly. I've played him recently. Great guy and player. He is still around. He usually spends the summer in NY and winter here in the West Palm Beach area.
  
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09-15-2013, 09:30 AM

In the late 70s I had the privilege to watch him play a lot, he hanged out @ the Hi Cue in Elizabeth NJ that's where a lot of the great players used to play A.Hopkins, R.Martin. S.Mizerak ,J.Colavita, P.Margo,J.Frady,even Danny Gartner who was in his 80s and still played good hanged there,well Toby played all of them and held more than his own that's how good Toby was, a great player.
  
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09-15-2013, 09:32 AM

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Exactly. I've played him recently. Great guy and player. He is still around. He usually spends the summer in NY and winter here in the West Palm Beach area.
Please tell him Jay from L.A. says hi. Thnx


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09-15-2013, 09:40 AM

Toby is a very good player, a real grinder !

He would catch a ride with me to some of the Florida Tour stops we played in.

He was a good friend at that time. I have not been to Florida for a long time.

On another note, the redhead girl just above Toby's elbow ( last pic in post #5) looks like

Bonnie Hoffman. She was starting to climb up the rankings but then she

kind of vanished from the scene. Her sister Corrine was the TD on the Fla Tour.

I heard she passed away. Their father was a great guy too.

He was a regular at CM's Place in Seminole.



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09-15-2013, 10:20 AM

I hope someone shows Toby this thread. Seems like he would really enjoy reading the comments about him.

Anyone want to volunteer to do this?


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09-15-2013, 11:04 AM

I saw Toby once, at the NYS 9 ball Championship in the early or mid '80s. He had a great rep as one of the best gamblers in the country at the time. A guy with Joe Kerr, I think it may have been Lyle Gay(sp?), tried to make a game with Toby with the wild 8 but Toby offered the call 8, they never did play. Toby seemed very quiet and reserved, not real concerned whether they played or not.


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09-15-2013, 11:50 AM

I played Toby in 1969 in Memphis at the Highland Cue. He was with "Cuban Joe", Toby ran 11 racks on me on a Gold Crown, I guess he could play a little lol !


  
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09-15-2013, 11:52 AM

His name came up yesterday in remenicent conversation between some former pro players and it was agreed that he had one of the best Q balls....Ever.
And could play with anyone. Believe it.
And his one handed game was on par with almost anyone alive.
  
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09-15-2013, 07:00 PM

Incardone played him a few sets and as i hear it-never won one of them and had enough of Toby for life.
  
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