Daulton Leong Road Respect
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I know what he did around here. Maybe he changed when he went to New York.
Wellllllllll....? What did he do around there, Bob?
Thank you Fran. Dalton spent a lot of time around L.A. and his rep was as a guy who would get up there and play. He wasn't afraid to play anyone and bet high is what I remember. I never heard anyone say anything bad about him. I admit I didn't know him well, but well enough not to want to gamble with him. He was never rude to me in any way or tried to hustle me. Maybe he didn't think he could beat me at One Pocket or Banks (I wish).
He played Billy Kenyon to a standstill at 9-Ball in The Billiard Den and Billy was a helluva player who I saw beat Cecil Tugwell in his prime.
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If you would of read the 1st post....1970 was the year. Shannon was an infant during that time. And Dalton and Shannon are two different first names.
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I played him a few times in the 70’s at the Golden Cue outside LA and we got along fine. He always won though.
Yeah-Glad it wasnt just me. I didnt get it-First time he was mentioned was at the end and im WTF?
I didn’t think it was Shannon Daulton, but the name Daulton put “good ol boy” in my head.
Double dump. Got some the regulars at one of the places I played. In the same vein as what he did to Bill their first meeting. With the double dump the favored player wins, and the people who bet on the other guy because the dump was on got what they deserved in some twisted sort of morality.
In 1990, he made the New York Times, sort of:
https://www.nytimes.com/1990/01/20/nyregion/a-blood-spattered-car-is-seized-at-a-carwash.html
pool room morality
Somehow we divide things into pool room morality and the rest of the world morality. Kinda embarrassing to remember some of the people I gambled with and socialized with at least to a small degree. I knew they were trash and worse out on the street, I only judged them on how they behaved in a pool room. If they weren't terribly obnoxious and paid when they lost they were acceptable if not good people, in the night action. Wouldn't like to admit I knew many of them in the daylight hours when I was out and about living the straight life.
Met one of my old girl friends when we were both going to the vo-tech some years after we had been together. She looked at me, "Who would believe we had died and went to hell and are living in suburbia."
Hu
Somehow we divide things into pool room morality and the rest of the world morality. Kinda embarrassing to remember some of the people I gambled with and socialized with at least to a small degree. I knew they were trash and worse out on the street, I only judged them on how they behaved in a pool room. If they weren't terribly obnoxious and paid when they lost they were acceptable if not good people, in the night action. Wouldn't like to admit I knew many of them in the daylight hours when I was out and about living the straight life.
Met one of my old girl friends when we were both going to the vo-tech some years after we had been together. She looked at me, "Who would believe we had died and went to hell and are living in suburbia."
Hu
Settle down, it's obvious you both, have/do/did experience Quite different experiences with the same man. Many in life do wrong and then become good people.
Would of been Wonderful to hear why you felt so much good for this man. Instead you chose not too and took another way to go about your business.
To Slam another without understanding their reasoning behind what they say, shows me more about the one who's attacking w/o asking first, what they had done to them to form their opinion.
In a court of law, there are ALWAYS two sides.
It's soooooooooooo easy nowadazzzzzzzze to attack another w/o just cause. Hate is rampant.
I forgive you Fran for attacking w/o asking first why the other person came to this conclusion.
Daulton Leong may have gone thru a bad time in his early yrs on the W. coast, but to not ask why, or what he did First is confusing.
I new Daulton well. I traveled with him and Hawaiian Brian around LA in middle 70's. He was tough about the money. You had to know where you were at at all times when he was in action. I'm not talking about dumping, I'm talking about him firing up your cash in bad games. Daulton could never beat our own Billy (Island Drive) on his best day. At best Daulton was a good shortstop. The poolroom in San Fran Billy was referring to was Country Club Billiards on Van Ness which was Daultons home room. Lastly, my comments are not to besmirch Daulton but only to add context to the flaws he and ALL of us have. Some of those flaws he had contributed to his demise in NY many years later. He got mixed up with a tough crowd who were not pool players and he paid the ultimate price.
Yep, I could have chosen a better old phrase to use...or should have altered it?
But I posted it..now I have to own it.
Wait, a guy stiffs you and then later dumps his backer, and he's a stand up guy?
I just did that moments ago FB, was so excited to tell a Great friends daughter my youngest, now 35 is pregnant. She threw me under the bus, I thought I'd sent her a PM but NOT. Miscue, but then she laid into me.........and I thought I'd end that in an amicable way. Unfriend, and I still love her and her parents and all of em.
I got into it a yr or so ago with my cousin, and educator in middle school.
We just agreed to not talk about politics ever again, alls well.
Thx.....still learnin'
I just did that moments ago FB, was so excited to tell a Great friends daughter my youngest, now 35 is pregnant. She threw me under the bus, I thought I'd sent her a PM but NOT. Miscue, but then she laid into me.........and I thought I'd end that in an amicable way. Unfriend, and I still love her and her parents and all of em.
I got into it a yr or so ago with my cousin, and educator in middle school.
We just agreed to not talk about politics ever again, alls well.
Thx.....still learnin'
Nice post there, bill. I like your perspective.
Don't like the celebration of the dump, but this one is gold.
it was a perfect fit
The saying was a perfect fit, but only if the person reading recognized that it was an old saying. The payback, the nods and smiles forever more, fits perfect. Of course if somebody has never heard of the saying and takes what you wrote literally, ... :grin:
Serves you right for being erudite!
Hu
The saying was a perfect fit, but only if the person reading recognized that it was an old saying. The payback, the nods and smiles forever more, fits perfect. Of course if somebody has never heard of the saying and takes what you wrote literally, ... :grin:
Serves you right for being erudite!
Hu
It is worth noting that the NYTimes, which is prone to double check these things, spells his name: Dalton.
Lou Figueroa
I cannot recall a room called Country Club Billiards in SF in the mid-70’s.
I do remember Van’s Billiards, a two story affair, on Van Ness, and Town and Country Billiards in Daly City. It was at the latter that I met Dalton, who was traveling through the area with Hawaiian Brian. A bunch of us went to breakfast early one morning after the pool room closed down. He seemed like a nice enough guy.
Lou Figueroa