how are ya'll doing in league ?

nine_ball6970 · Mar 2, 2015

lorider said:
i think napa is the best league out there.

the amount of stats they provide is unbeleivable.

one unique feature is the ability to fore cast a match with any other league player based on your and your opponents current stats.

here is an example . you click on the persons name you wish to compare to.

it will give you every stat under the sun almost.

which player wins the most lags
which player has the most break and runs
which player has the most 8..9.. or 10 on the breaks.
and plenty more besides that.
from there it determines which of you is most likely to win a matchup.

it also gives you your history vs other players. say you played joe average 8 times ...click of the button tells you who won the most matches.

unbeleivable the number of stats theey provide.

most fair handicapping and races to boot on top of that.

just wish they would get their crap together concerning nationals.

Thank you for the information.

What problems are there regarding Nationals?

lorider · Mar 2, 2015

nine_ball6970 said:
Thank you for the information.

What problems are there regarding Nationals?

let me clarify this.

i went to the ones in nashville and in tunica. both were well ran and i absolutely had no problems with either one.

i did not go to the one in atlanta because it conflicted with my apa cities.

all the below problems were posted on this forum.

mis conception that it was going to be held on diamonds when in fact it was held on valleys. i beleive the misunderstanding was due to the last 2 were held on diamonds and people assumed they would be in atlanta also. i never saw any thing on the website that alluded to diamonds were going to be used but they should have addressed the misunderstanding. personally ..it makes no difference to me.

other issues were low turnout and low pay outs one affects the other but people were on here griping about it.

hopefully this year in michigan will be better . have not decided yet if i am going this year or not.

nine_ball6970 · Mar 3, 2015

lorider said:
let me clarify this.

i went to the ones in nashville and in tunica. both were well ran and i absolutely had no problems with either one.

i did not go to the one in atlanta because it conflicted with my apa cities.

all the below problems were posted on this forum.

mis conception that it was going to be held on diamonds when in fact it was held on valleys. i beleive the misunderstanding was due to the last 2 were held on diamonds and people assumed they would be in atlanta also. i never saw any thing on the website that alluded to diamonds were going to be used but they should have addressed the misunderstanding. personally ..it makes no difference to me.

other issues were low turnout and low pay outs one affects the other but people were on here griping about it.

hopefully this year in michigan will be better . have not decided yet if i am going this year or not.

I feel the same way as you do about valleys/diamonds.

I am not sure what people should expect for turnouts in what is a relatively new league. The flyer does say minimum 20k added so who knows where and how that is allocated.

I am not sure if I am going as well. The entry fee is steep for grandmaster/master. I only have 8 matches played and can't realistically play 12 matches in March. Maybe go to BCA Nationals this year and then start going to NAPA Nationals next year.

krupa · Mar 3, 2015

lorider said:
let me clarify this.

i went to the ones in nashville and in tunica. both were well ran and i absolutely had no problems with either one.

i did not go to the one in atlanta because it conflicted with my apa cities.

all the below problems were posted on this forum.

mis conception that it was going to be held on diamonds when in fact it was held on valleys. i beleive the misunderstanding was due to the last 2 were held on diamonds and people assumed they would be in atlanta also. i never saw any thing on the website that alluded to diamonds were going to be used but they should have addressed the misunderstanding. personally ..it makes no difference to me.

other issues were low turnout and low pay outs one affects the other but people were on here griping about it.

hopefully this year in michigan will be better . have not decided yet if i am going this year or not.

nine_ball6970 said:
I feel the same way as you do about valleys/diamonds.

I am not sure what people should expect for turnouts in what is a relatively new league. The flyer does say minimum 20k added so who knows where and how that is allocated.

I am not sure if I am going as well. The entry fee is steep for grandmaster/master. I only have 8 matches played and can't realistically play 12 matches in March. Maybe go to BCA Nationals this year and then start going to NAPA Nationals next year.

I went to Nationals last year. From what I heard, Atlanta had lower turnouts than previous years. As for payouts, I think low payouts together with a $90/night hotel and tournament organizers staying in the penthouse made for a lot of unrest.

I'm not going to Nationals this year. It's an 8 hour drive, I don't like casinos and the after-hours action and mini-tournaments (i.e., the big drunken party) is just not my scene anymore.

lorider · Mar 3, 2015

krupa said:
I went to Nationals last year. From what I heard, Atlanta had lower turnouts than previous years. As for payouts, I think low payouts together with a $90/night hotel and tournament organizers staying in the penthouse made for a lot of unrest.

I'm not going to Nationals this year. It's an 8 hour drive, I don't like casinos and the after-hours action and mini-tournaments (i.e., the big drunken party) is just not my scene anymore.

i am with you about your last sentence.

although i went to vegas for the apa team nationals i stayed away from the casinos...as much as possible since you are playing and staying in one.:grin-square:

i stayed in the room ...watched a lil tv and went to sleep early while my g/f and the rest of the team went to the pool party. only down side was missing the black widow since she was at the party.

well tonight was 8 ball travel. played a pretty good 4 in a 4-3 race. i just could not get it together and lost 3-0.

krupa · Mar 4, 2015

lorider said:
i am with you about your last sentence.

although i went to vegas for the apa team nationals i stayed away from the casinos...as much as possible since you are playing and staying in one.:grin-square:

i stayed in the room ...watched a lil tv and went to sleep early while my g/f and the rest of the team went to the pool party. only down side was missing the black widow since she was at the party.

well tonight was 8 ball travel. played a pretty good 4 in a 4-3 race. i just could not get it together and lost 3-0.

That's pretty much what I did in Atlanta. My roommate, on the other hand, partied literally all night (if he didn't have to play the next day).

So NAPA just updated their 10-ball rule. It's not what I would like to see (I like being able to call "safe" and pocket a ball) but I don't think there is any ambiguity in this version, which is nice:

http://www.napaleagues.com/naparules/?id=501

1.9 CALLING YOUR POCKET (10-BALL RULE)
Shooters are required to call their intended ball and pocket when shooting on every shot with the exception of the break. Calling a pocket is done by either, verbally announcing the designated pocket to the opponent, or any shooter on the opposing team, or by pointing at the pocket with your hand or pool cue. The shooter does not need to call number of cushions, banks, kisses, or caroms. If the shooter pockets the 10-ball in the designated pocket, the game is a win.

Illegally Pocketed Balls:

Pocketing a called ball in an unintended pocket
An unintended ball pocketed while not legally pocketing the called ball
If the 10-ball is illegally pocketed it is spotted. All other illegally pocketed balls remain pocketed

Play Option:

If you illegally pocket any ball, your opponent has the option to:

Accept the table as is
Require you to shoot again

nine_ball6970 · Mar 4, 2015

Typically I run over people if I get the lead early and fall apart if I dig myself into a hole. Last night was the exception which was nice.

First I played 8 ball. 7-5 race. It was one of those races where I couldn't believe I was spotting someone at his level 2 games. He has me down 4-2 and then I win the next 5 for a 7-4 win.

Play the same guy in 9 ball. 6-6 race. He wins the first 3 games. I win the next 5 games. Then he wins 1 and I win 1 to take the match 6-4. I will say for the most part 9 ball races in NAPA really take me out of my comfort zone. Hard to spot more than a couple games when I am used to giving up ball spots.

The races are only going to get tougher which is good for me to make league more challenging. It feels better to have to play well to win instead of just being able to cruise because opponent isn't getting the spot they really need.

drv4 · Mar 5, 2015

Needed a big night in 8 ball. Our team won 11-2. I got my revenge against another 6, who was my only loss on the season. Now I'm 4 for 4 in 9'amd 4 for 5 in 8. Our team is qualified for cities and this win should put us back in the top half of the league. I played decent tonight, but played someone who could've beat me if they tried. Our 9 ball is awesome!!

SandFox · Mar 5, 2015

I can happily say after a year and half of practice and learning, I finally got my revenge against someone Ive wanted to beat since they 10/0 me it felt sweet and everything was instantly alright.

DAVE_M · Mar 5, 2015

Last nights match was disgusting. It was 75-80 degrees outside. All the doors to the room were open and the tables were damp. I had to put a break stroke on the ball to draw it half table :angry:

My matches so far:
vs. SL6 - Win ( 18-2 )
vs. SL6 - Win ( 16-4, IIRC )
vs. SL5 - Loss ( 13-7, I gave up BIH 8 times

)
vs. SL6 at City Cup - Win ( 12-8 )
vs. SL6 - Win (16-4)

I don't foresee myself getting bumped up to a 7 with my mediocre play.

EllisCueRepair · Mar 5, 2015

Handicap in ACS is a 9
Handicap in CIPL is a 8
Handicap In APA is a 5.

krupa · Mar 10, 2015

Started a NAPA singles league tonight. I needed 4 in a 4-3 10-ball race. Won 4-1. This past weekend I went down to NYC and had a very good lesson with Fran Crimi. While I'm certainly not going to jump a level overnight, I've already been practicing some of the things we went over and I feel like I'm pocketing balls more confidently and staying with the shoot better.

lorider · Mar 14, 2015

last sunday double jeapordy...faced a 7 in 9 ball and lost 55-16. you know the old saying...you can't win sitting in the chair...he was running out from every where. 4-3 race in 8 ball and i won 4-1 with 1 break and run.

fri night scotch doubles. i faced a 6 in 9 ball singles and won 38-41. my partner " a 5" and i won 8 ball doubles vs 6/4 in 4-0.

oh yea fellas....i joined a masters division....1st session starts tomorrow. yea i know i am gonna get my butt handed to me but i plan on learning from it. :grin:

Jim Baxter · Mar 14, 2015

We finished the season , 12 games ahead of 2ed and 28 games ahead of 3erd , and 118 games ahead of last place .

Now we can loose it all in the playoffs .

Home team has to rotate players . Last year they sent us to a different tavern and made us home team on a different taverns table and we played the #1 team from that tavern with them being the visitor . Never did figure that out .

lorider · Mar 16, 2015

i played masters yesterday....won 7-5. :grin-square: my opponent won the lag and chose 9 ball 1st. i broke and won 3 in a row by making early combos. i broke dry 4 th rack and he runs out . puts 3 break and runs on me. i win the 8th rack with an early combo again and we are tied 4-4 going into 8 ball. he wins the 1st 8 ball rack and i win the next 3 in a row by putting a shit load of safties on him.

the session started off as a cluster fvck because of several no shows that were on rosters and several people showed up looking to get on a team. we started 45 minutes late trying to sort it all out and makeing up some new teams. i wound up on my lo's team. we play 2 sets of matches every other week. i did not play the 2nd set but kept score.

by the time the 2nd set was finished it was time for my double jeapordy league to start. gonna start a new post about that instead of making a long one here. :grin:

lorider · Mar 16, 2015

on 2nd thought i am not gonna say much about my double jeapordy last night except to say its very true if your head aint in the game you might as well not play.

i just might be cleaning house on my team next week .

nine_ball6970 · Mar 17, 2015

NAPA Lagger's Choice last night. I lose the lag yet again. He wants to play 10 ball. Race is 7-5. He wins the first game. I win the next six and then the wheels fall off. He makes it hill hill when I rattle a 10 ball. Last game is a kicking battle on the 8 ball. I finally get ball in hand and run out. Not exactly thrilled with how I played but at least I won.

Question for you guys playing NAPA 10 ball. Do you typically call a pocket when kicking? I made several balls on kicks last night and did not call any of them. I am not sure what the best strategy is.

krupa · Mar 17, 2015

nine_ball6970 said:
NAPA Lagger's Choice last night. I lose the lag yet again. He wants to play 10 ball. Race is 7-5. He wins the first game. I win the next six and then the wheels fall off. He makes it hill hill when I rattle a 10 ball. Last game is a kicking battle on the 8 ball. I finally get ball in hand and run out. Not exactly thrilled with how I played but at least I won.

Question for you guys playing NAPA 10 ball. Do you typically call a pocket when kicking? I made several balls on kicks last night and did not call any of them. I am not sure what the best strategy is.

NAPA recently (and quietly) changed the wording of the 10-ball rules: http://www.napaleagues.com/naparules/?id=501

Here's the 10-ball rule for calling pockets:

Shooters are required to call their intended ball and pocket when shooting on every shot with the exception of the break. Calling a pocket is done by either, verbally announcing the designated pocket to the opponent, or any shooter on the opposing team, or by pointing at the pocket with your hand or pool cue. The shooter does not need to call number of cushions, banks, kisses, or caroms. If the shooter pockets the 10-ball in the designated pocket, the game is a win.

Illegally Pocketed Balls:

Pocketing a called ball in an unintended pocket
An unintended ball pocketed while not legally pocketing the called ball
If the 10-ball is illegally pocketed it is spotted. All other illegally pocketed balls remain pocketed
Play Option:

If you illegally pocket any ball, your opponent has the option to:

Accept the table as is
Require you to shoot again

Basically you are supposed to always call a ball and a pocket. If you don't and you pocket something, your opponent has the play option.

So I guess the answer to your question is, "yes, I always call my shot when kicking."

nine_ball6970 · Mar 17, 2015

krupa said:
NAPA recently (and quietly) changed the wording of the 10-ball rules: http://www.napaleagues.com/naparules/?id=501

Here's the 10-ball rule for calling pockets:

Basically you are supposed to always call a ball and a pocket. If you don't and you pocket something, your opponent has the play option.

So I guess the answer to your question is, "yes, I always call my shot when kicking."

Thanks for the input and link. That was only my second match in NAPA ten ball so still need some work on the rules. Hard to keep track of rules in different leagues and tournaments.

krupa · Mar 17, 2015

nine_ball6970 said:
Thanks for the input and link. That was only my second match in NAPA ten ball so still need some work on the rules. Hard to keep track of rules in different leagues and tournaments.

naparules.com is a handy, mobile-friendly site with all the rules.

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