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03-10-2015, 10:23 AM

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I really play quite a bit better than I let on.

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And this, in my opinion, is why pool will never rise from the state it is in now. Not trying to beat up or jump the thread on Mr. Bus,,, but I really think this prevalent mentality keeps pool down.

I can't think of any other sport where this is the case.

Just my opinion, but I think people should be up front with their game.
  
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03-10-2015, 10:26 AM

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And this, in my opinion, is why pool will never rise from the state it is in now. Not trying to beat up or jump the thread on Mr. Bus,,, but I really think this prevalent mentality keeps pool down.

I can't think of any other sport where this is the case.

Just my opinion, but I think people should be up front with their game.
I think he just does it for the forums, I've seen other posts where his true game came out.

If I wanted to be known as the one eyed pirate guy who could not make 2 balls in a row on the forums, that's is the persona I'd use, but may not be how I act or play in the real world. In the real world I'm a one eyed pirate who can make 3 balls.


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03-10-2015, 10:27 AM

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And this, in my opinion, is why pool will never rise from the state it is in now. Not trying to beat up or jump the thread on Mr. Bus,,, but I really think this prevalent mentality keeps pool down.

I can't think of any other sport where this is the case.

Just my opinion, but I think people should be up front with their game.
I don't think that is what Russ meant at all. Chill dude.
  
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03-10-2015, 10:32 AM

i guess you are right but is does that what you really wanted to win. i would have really wanted to win the tourney. the guy with the magic rack accomplished exactly what he wanted: to get in the other players' heads.

pnce the TD makes his ruling then get to playing pool and winning. personally if it was me, i wouldn't have said anything because he got all the way to the hot seat. did you really think you would win the argument no matter how right or wrong you are?

you shot yourself in the foot with your own gun and you knew it was loaded. you sound like you have a good feel for the game and you definitely are passionate about the game, but you need to channel your energy to winning instead of winning arguments.

but who am i to say ... just my nickel's worth.
  
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03-10-2015, 10:35 AM

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I don't think that is what Russ meant at all. Chill dude.
I hear ya,, , my post reads quite a bit more tight assed than I meant.

  
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03-10-2015, 10:48 AM

C'mon Russ magic rack works both ways and it wasn't like you were close to win it was a 6-0


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03-10-2015, 10:50 AM

I can't remember what post it was or how it came up but I think the C player thing came from someone calling him a C player but I may be mistaken. Either way, he has posted video's of him shooting and he uses C player in jest. I don't think he is running around trying to enter the C divison in tournaments although the guy I ran into at a MPA tournament this weekend played about his level and ran my ass over in C division lol.
  
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03-10-2015, 10:51 AM

And if I remember right he had to spot you the first break too


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03-10-2015, 10:55 AM

If the TD was referring to BCAPL Nationals, he was exactly correct. Since it's introduction, the Magic Ball Rack has been accepted equipment at BCAPL Nationals and most CSI events, and a player may not be denied use of it. The only conditions are that its use MUST be announced before the match starts and the opponent must also be allowed to use it.

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03-10-2015, 10:56 AM

6-0? Is that true?

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03-10-2015, 11:01 AM

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6-0? Is that true?

Yup 6-0 and Russ had the first break


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03-10-2015, 11:31 AM

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If the TD was referring to BCAPL Nationals, he was exactly correct. Since it's introduction, the Magic Ball Rack has been accepted equipment at BCAPL Nationals and most CSI events, and a player may not be denied use of it. The only conditions are that its use MUST be announced before the match starts and the opponent must also be allowed to use it.

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03-10-2015, 12:02 PM

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Maybe I just get too twisted about nothing.. I'd like your opinions...

I went to a handicapped 9 ball tournament this weekend, fairly small, only about 23 people. All matches in the tournament were played on 7 foot Diamonds, with the wooden rack, except for one guy, (A fairly decent player) who actually brought a magic rack with him to the tournament.

It came down to he and I playing for the hot seat, and right before we play, he mentions that he brought a magic rack, and I immediately say, "Absolutely not, unless I am forced to play with it. I believe the magic rack equalizes play between nonequal players.."

He asks that we allow the tournament director to decide, and of course the director rules that based on "what they do at national tournaments", that he is allowed to use the magic rack, but must allow me to use it if I wish..

I ended up having little to no interest in the match after that, and two-stroked everything, and ended up losing. I tried a bit harder in the loser's bracket, because I was actually looking forward to the double dip attempt, but ended up coming up short in the match for 2nd/3rd, losing hill-hill.

Looking back, the best thing I could have done was to try to beat the guy in the winner's bracket, and let my stick talk for me. I guess it was just really irritating, because I think the guy can't beat me without the magic rack, as he would need to really hit the rack on the break and accept a more random outcome off the break.

Should I have just outright refused to play with the magic rack, as he is the only guy who brought one, and then just accepted the forfeit necessity as a means of concientious objection?

What do you think of the tournament director's decision?

All in all, I feel that I hve exhibited a lot of self control not to post this same post on Facebook, as a ton of people on my friend's list will know who the guy is. I didn't want it to sound like sour grapes, though, and I am looking forward to getting back in stroke enough to where this sort of tactic won't even matter...


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To be blunt, this post makes you sound very immature: you didn't get what you wanted so you gave up. Aren't you supposed to "show some heart" and "outrun the nuts*"?

As for the TD's decision, it doesn't matter. No matter how right you think you are, you will never get every decision your way. Are you going to quit every time the TD makes a decision you don't like?

*I have no clue if I used that phrase correctly.


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03-10-2015, 12:09 PM

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And if I remember right he had to spot you the first break too
Yup, that's right. 6-0. And I beat two players a rank above him 6-0 and 6-3..

I already said I intentionally two stroked everything, and looked the player right in the eye after every missed shot. It was much more about the principal of the matter to me.

By the by... You can back him in any non-magic rack game you want. Big table... Small table..

Hell... snooker table, even.... I consider myself a well-rounded player, yah know?

I'll even give him a ball in One Pocket, never having even seen him play a game. He certainly likes to practice banks on the small table. Same difference, right.

You want to be reallll careful about insinuating that he is a better player. The owner of the pool hall where we play had mentioned trying to get us matched up in the past. Me butchering a couple of AAAs in tournaments put an end to that.

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03-10-2015, 12:09 PM

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Yup 6-0 and Russ had the first break
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