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Somebody explain non-layered tips to me. - 08-13-2015, 07:40 AM

I've been using Everest and I like them but I might switch back to a non-layered tip.

I formerly used Trangle. Not pressed or milked, just regular Triangle out of the box.

What are the pros and cons, is there a type of non-layered which is better than others?

I love the Everest when they are new but after a while they get hard as a rock.
  
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08-13-2015, 07:50 AM

I'm sure you've seen the posts on here about the Ki-Tech tips. It's not just marketing, one of the top tips I've used in 25 years, including the original Moori's in that list. Hardness like a Kamui Black Soft after the Ki-Tech gets broken in, but remains soft unlike the Kamui which hardens in a few months. Never needed shaping. People say good things about the Ultraskin tips here but the couple of people I've talked to personally about them did not like them at all.


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08-13-2015, 07:54 AM

With someone who has over 6,000 posts, one would know how to use Google search by now.

http://billiards.colostate.edu/threa...html#laminated


It's all preference, some people prefer the single layered Milk Duds or Ki Tech. Some prefer laminated tips like Ultraskin or Moori.


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08-13-2015, 08:06 AM

Non-layered tips are just that. Non-layered. Single layer tips have only one layer.
You might think about trying the new FourSkin tip from Steamer Cue Sports Ltd. Made with four layers of carefully selected leathers, the FourSkin is guaranteed to meet the demands of today's discerning pool players.
And, coming out this week is the new Multi-cultural FourSkin. Crafted with four layers of White, Black, Asian, and Guatemalan; it's a tip that will most assuredly become a world beater. Get yours today.


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08-13-2015, 08:18 AM

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I'm sure you've seen the posts on here about the Ki-Tech tips. It's not just marketing, one of the top tips I've used in 25 years, including the original Moori's in that list. Hardness like a Kamui Black Soft after the Ki-Tech gets broken in, but remains soft unlike the Kamui which hardens in a few months. Never needed shaping. People say good things about the Ultraskin tips here but the couple of people I've talked to personally about them did not like them at all.
No, first I've heard about Ki-Tech. I might give them a try. Do they mushroom?
  
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Non-layered tips are just that. Non-layered. Single layer tips have only one layer.
You might think about trying the new FourSkin tip from Steamer Cue Sports Ltd. Made with four layers of carefully selected leathers, the FourSkin is guaranteed to meet the demands of today's discerning pool players.
And, coming out this week is the new Multi-cultural FourSkin. Crafted with four layers of White, Black, Asian, and Guatemalan; it's a tip that will most assuredly become a world beater. Get yours today.
FourSkin tips?
  
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08-13-2015, 08:48 AM

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With someone who has over 6,000 posts, one would know how to use Google search by now.

http://billiards.colostate.edu/threa...html#laminated


It's all preference, some people prefer the single layered Milk Duds or Ki Tech. Some prefer laminated tips like Ultraskin or Moori.
Thanks for the link but for me - speaking only for mystelf - sometimes feedback from people is better than statistics on a website.
  
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08-13-2015, 08:55 AM

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No, first I've heard about Ki-Tech. I might give them a try. Do they mushroom?
I have tried one so far, a Soft, but no mushrooming at all. 0. None.
I have a Medium from them also that I want to try, my son wants to try a new tip so I may install it on his shaft.

Of course that may depend on how the guy that put it on did the install, I think due to whatever they get treated with it needs to be pressed on the sides or cut with a very sharp blade, or something special. The guy that makes them posts quite a bit on here and has all the info.

KMRUNOUT just had a post about them a day or 2 ago also, should still be on the first few pages.


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Thanks for the link but for me - speaking only for mystelf - sometimes feedback from people is better than statistics on a website.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=404117


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Ki-tech - 08-13-2015, 12:02 PM

I read the description on the outsville website, and have always preferred a single layer to a layered tip, but still have a question. Do the ki-tech follow the traditional scale, or is it more like the kamui tips? I know I can feel a huge hardness difference between a kamui medium and any other medium I've ever shot with, just want to make sure I get the right thing.
  
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08-13-2015, 12:24 PM

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I read the description on the outsville website, and have always preferred a single layer to a layered tip, but still have a question. Do the ki-tech follow the traditional scale, or is it more like the kamui tips? I know I can feel a huge hardness difference between a kamui medium and any other medium I've ever shot with, just want to make sure I get the right thing.
The Ki-Tech Soft is really soft. The Kamui Back Soft is more Medium in comparison.
The first day I tried mine, it felt like I was hitting with a marshmallow, a firm leather marshmallow but still very spongy. It firmed up since then, took a few weeks, but it's still quite a soft hit. I have a medium but have not tried it, but going by how the soft plays, I'd say the medium would be close to the Kamui Soft.


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08-13-2015, 12:26 PM

Triangle tips are good (hold their shape well and have good feeling) and cost effective compared to the competition.


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FourSkin tips?
if you rub a soft tip ............ it becomes a hard tip





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