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What does Merry Widow mean in a cue ? - 05-16-2020, 09:52 PM

I see a lot of people saying on here that they want to get a custom cue or buy a cue and they want a Merry Widow, what does that mean. Does it mean plain with no inlay or points just plain or is that a specific model combination .
  
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05-16-2020, 09:53 PM

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I see a lot of people saying on here that they want to get a custom cue or buy a cue and they want a Merry Widow, what does that mean. Does it mean plain with no inlay or points just plain or is that a specific model combination .
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05-16-2020, 10:13 PM

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I see a lot of people saying on here that they want to get a custom cue or buy a cue and they want a Merry Widow, what does that mean. Does it mean plain with no inlay or points just plain or is that a specific model combination .

All three of these cues are Merry Widows.
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05-16-2020, 10:25 PM

The original term really meant one-piece butt.
Not sectional.
You used to be able to go to a store and buy cheap Viking or Heubler merry widows. The butt was one piece of wood with linen wrap ( usually ).

Now, even a plane jane needs to have some assembly. The handle is a separate wood. The butt sleeve is another piece of wood. Never mind if it's cored.
  
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05-17-2020, 03:11 PM

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to be one piece butt.. my take now is the cue can have a butt cap, some
type of wrap, various joint types, but no points or veneers or work on
the forearm.

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05-17-2020, 03:33 PM

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I see a lot of people saying on here that they want to get a custom cue or buy a cue and they want a Merry Widow, what does that mean. Does it mean plain with no inlay or points just plain or is that a specific model combination .

Thanks for asking the question, I had wondered exactly what a “Merry Widow” is to. I had deduced that they had no points, but wasn’t sure. Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how they got that name?


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05-17-2020, 04:06 PM

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The original term really meant one-piece butt.
Not sectional.
You used to be able to go to a store and buy cheap Viking or Heubler merry widows. The butt was one piece of wood with linen wrap ( usually ).
This is correct.

Unfortunately, like the term Sneaky Pete, the traditional meaning has been altered. Today people use the term Merry Widow to describe any wrapless three section cue.

A Plain Jane cue originally described a cue without any inlays or decoration.


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05-17-2020, 04:30 PM

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All three of these cues are Merry Widows.
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Thanks for asking the question, I had wondered exactly what a “Merry Widow” is to. I had deduced that they had no points, but wasn’t sure. Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how they got that name?


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Im not sure how the moniker started but its been around since at least 1915.

I believe it had something to do with women's lingerie.


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05-18-2020, 07:58 AM

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wondered exactly what a “Merry Widow” is to. I had deduced that they had no points, but wasn’t sure. Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how they got that name?
Dunno if BBC came up with the term, but one of their famous fancy cues, the #28, was marketed that way at least since the early 20's, maybe 19-teens. The cue was in their early catalogs for years.



I always thought of a Merry Widow as a no-points wrap cue with somewhat fancy wood. Like the BBC original. Nowdays, people seem to think it should be wrapless 3 pc butt, with the center wood section visually substituting for the wrap on the originals. Not sure when that style cue started, but much later than true M-W's

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05-18-2020, 08:24 AM

You guys have it all wrong.
Let me straighten this out.

A long time ago there was a pool player that collected a lot of plain Jane looking cues.
He dies and his wife sold the collection for a pretty good sum of money.
She was very happy about the windfall.
See was a merry widow.

And ever since plain Jane cues became known as merry widows.


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05-18-2020, 08:30 AM

I'll take a guess...

At some point someone was fascinated by the play "The Merry Widow" and designed it around a working class woman with no man or crown (hence no points) who would mingle with men.

These women obviously existed in real life, but who knows what type of stick they used.
  
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I'll take a guess...

At some point someone was fascinated by the play "The Merry Widow" and designed it around a working class woman with no man or crown (hence no points) who would mingle with men.

These women obviously existed in real life, but who knows what type of stick they used.
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05-18-2020, 08:33 AM

Is there also a "Merry Widower"?


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05-18-2020, 08:51 AM

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I see a lot of people saying on here that they want to get a custom cue or buy a cue and they want a Merry Widow, what does that mean. Does it mean plain with no inlay or points just plain or is that a specific model combination .
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Merry Widow is the style of cue that the butt is primarily made of one piece of wood aside from joint, collars, butt caps and bumper. In the old Brunswick Catalog, it had a wrap, but was a continuous piece of wood under the wrap. Many cue manufactures have offered Wrapless Merry Widows, which you can clearly see the single continuous piece of wood.

Merry Widow-style is the modern take where the butt would be modern, balanced 3-piece construction (forearm, butt plate and handle), with the linen, leather or cork wrap (for examples) around the handle masking the fact that the butt isn't one piece.

Wrapless Handle Merry Widow-style is the same as above butt instead of a linen or similar wrap, the handle area is wood (see Hawaiian Eye's cues). Clearly, this isn't meant to look like a butt made of one piece of wood.


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