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Cte finally explained? - 02-07-2017, 08:01 AM

A few individuals have contacted me about a person starting a YouTube series: CTE FINALLY EXPLAINED.
I have not given anyone permission to start a CTE series based on my knowledge for CTE PRO ONE.
I am unable to contact this person for asking him to take the material down, Plus, what is being shown is not CTE.

This inconsiderate action gives me reason to rethink my free online series and even my book. Why should I continue down this road if a few others are going to reteach my material and most likely slaughter the content. I am the one that has invested thousands of hours and tens of thousands of dolllars......why, so someone else can come along scoop it up for their own benefit. I guess it's legal but I think it's highly unethical.
I am passionate about resolving every single detail concerning CTE. I can honestly say that my journey has been passion first with business a distant second. Ultimately though, pool is my business and for the life of me I can not understand why someone would produce a video series based totally on my work proclaiming to finally explain CTE. It's insulting!

Let's say this individual does 25 YouTube videos based on my current material. How many more would he do based on my proposed free update series? How many will he do based on the content in my book? I think that my concerns are well worth airing out.


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02-07-2017, 08:18 AM

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A few individuals have contacted about a person starting YouTube BASIC CTE series.
I have not given anyone permission to start a CTE series based on CTE PRO ONE.
I am unable to contact this person for asking him to take the material down. And it is not correct to boot.

This inconsiderate action gives me reason to rethink my free online series and even my book. Why should I continue if others are going to reteach my material. I am the one that has invested thousands of hours and tens of thousands of dolllars......so someone else can come along scoop it up for their own benefit. I guess it's legal but I think it's highly unethical.

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I think many have came up with their own version of cte..not sure this is the case. If it is , I don't see this as a problem.


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02-07-2017, 08:26 AM

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I think many have came up with their own version of cte..not sure this is the case. If it is , I don't see this as a problem.
I think many come up with their own version too, including Stan, which is great. Unless they are teaching it as Pro One I don't see a problem either. If they are then contact uTube and maybe something in their policy could have it removed. Link?

ETA: With Stan's version for instance, I think he has been forced to way overcomplicate the system by refusing to address the variable pivot point location, which technically changes for every shot. From what I saw of JB's video on his play table, same thing. If your bridge is always in the same spot and you pivot at the bridge, CTE can't work without overcomplicating the hell out of it and creating an entirely different system. Which is great as long as it works, but not nearly as simple as it could/should be.

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02-07-2017, 08:41 AM

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A few individuals have contacted about a person starting YouTube BASIC CTE series.
I have not given anyone permission to start a CTE series based on CTE PRO ONE.
I am unable to contact this person for asking him to take the material down. And it is not correct to boot.

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By saying, "And it is not correct to boot", do you mean this person is using your system, but not explaining it correctly?
If that is the case he should take it down. There's only one way to aim balls.. Ball center to edge or Ball edge to center.

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02-07-2017, 11:54 AM

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A few individuals have contacted me about a person starting a YouTube series: CTE FINALLY EXPLAINED.
I have not given anyone permission to start a CTE series based on my knowledge for CTE PRO ONE.
I am unable to contact this person for asking him to take the material down, plus it is not correct to boot.
This inconsiderate action gives me reason to rethink my free online series and even my book. Why should I continue down this road if a few others are going to reteach my material. I am the one that has invested thousands of hours and tens of thousands of dolllars......so someone else can come along scoop it up for their own benefit. I guess it's legal but I think it's highly unethical.
I am passionate about resolving every single detail concerning CTE. I can honestly say that my journey has been passion first with business a distant second. Ultimately though, pool is my business and for the life of me I can not understand why someone would produce a video series based totally on my work proclaiming to finally explain CTE. That's insulting!
Let's say this individual does 25 YouTube videos based on my current material. How many more would he do based on my proposed free "tell all" series? How many will he do based on the material in my book? I think that my concerns are well worth airing out.
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You've heard me say it before. GIVE AWAY nothing!
Nobody wants to see a lifetime of effort purloined by someone having motives that are anything but altruistic. And that's what is happening to your studies.
Make 'em pay money.
If 'they' don't like it, they can just get mad..................they got all day to turn around and 'get glad'.
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You've heard me say it before. GIVE AWAY nothing!
Nobody wants to see a lifetime of effort purloined by someone having motives that are anything but altruistic. And that's what is happening to your studies.
Make 'em pay money.
If 'they' don't like it, they can just get mad..................they got all day to turn around and 'get glad'.
Regards,
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It does cause me to strongly reevaluate what the heck it is that I am doing......One thing is for certain. I do not intend for my work to be a springboard for others in developing CTE presentations especially without my blessing or permission.

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02-07-2017, 12:22 PM

Stan, if I were you I would report it on youtube, every one of his three videos AND write him a comment to remove it, I think comments are enabled.

If you want to report it click just below the video on "°°°More" -> "Report" -> "Infringes my rights", I think you have every right to do it since he even mentions you in his videos.

This shouldn't have any influence on your work, stuff like this happens every day with everything, with movies/tv shows/software/book, you name it, one just has to fight it as much as he can, ppl like those will always be arround, unfortunately.
  
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Stan, if I were you I would report it on youtube, every one of his three videos AND write him a comment to remove it, I think comments are enabled.

If you want to report it click just below the video on "°°°More" -> "Report" -> "Infringes my rights", I think you have every right to do it since he even mentions you in his videos.

This shouldn't have any influence on your work, stuff like this happens every day with everything, with movies/tv shows/software/book, you name it, one just has to fight it as much as he can, ppl like those will always be arround, unfortunately.
Thanks for your input. I will likely not contact this person at this time but as long his videos are up containing my work as his premise for advancing CTE, there will be no online free series from me. I guess when my book is out someone will do it for me anyway. "I am in a tight spot!"

Anyway, thanks to this situation, I don't think I want to do a lay-up for someone to grab and do as they please. I am not interested in ongoing fighting with some that would gladly display no regard for the decade of study that I have put into CTE.

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Thanks for your input. I will likely not contact this person at this time but as long his videos are up containing my work as his premise for advancing CTE, there will be no online free series from me. I guess when my book is out someone will do it for me anyway. "I am in a tight spot!"

Anyway, thanks to this situation, I don't think I want to do a lay-up for someone to grab and do as they please. I am not interested in ongoing fighting with some that would gladly display no regard for the decade of study that I have put into CTE.

Stan Shuffett
In bold. WHOA!!

Why not make the videos and put them on your website?
I'm sure you have a list of the folks that purchased your DVD's. The only way to allow access to the free videos would be thru a user name (first and last name maybe) and then a password.

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It does cause me to strongly reevaluate what the heck it is that I am doing......One thing is for certain. I do not intend for my work to be a springboard for others in developing CTE presentations especially without my blessing or permission.

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Stan, you aren't going to stop all the copycats. It's part of the internet. But, what you can do, is make a comment on his videos that what he is teaching is NOT the CTE that you teach, and he shouldn't be referencing you in his videos. If he wants to post an aiming system, fine. But don't jump on your back to try and make his credible.

If you don't post your material, then all that will be out there is the wrong stuff. People need somewhere to get the correct material, and that is from you.
  
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02-07-2017, 02:26 PM

I looked at just a few minutes of the video and it's not even close to being CTE.

It looked to me to be 90/90.

Hang in there Stan.
  
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I looked at just a few minutes of the video and it's not even close to being CTE.

It looked to me to be 90/90.

Hang in there Stan.
Nah, it's not 90/90 either. He says it's a beginners guide for beginners and intermediate players. More advanced players can move on to Stan's CTE. I think the guy means well, but is going about things all wrong.
  
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02-07-2017, 06:07 PM

I saw them, they are clearly not CTE, and clearly not complete. I wouldn't worry too much about them, they are not conveying anything useful. Make comments this is not CTE, report them. That's about all you can do with worthless copycats.


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02-07-2017, 07:59 PM

I really don't see what the issue is here. If this truly is "incorrect" then there is no harm to the Pro One system. And if it is "incomplete" then why not let a bunch of yo-yos have some fun with it? I've seen those videos. He's not monetizing them as far as I can tell, at least the last time I saw them. Maybe the ones that are truly interested will Google CTE and find out more about Hal and Stan.

Even a comment on the guy's video explaining a couple of things, and linking to your page, instead of the negativity of "reporting", would be more constructive here. You should be making the most of the situation, not cowering. Is this guy a worthless copycat? Did he "reverse-engineer" enough of CTE to make it useful? Are there "legal grounds" here such as copyright or trademark? CTE or not, most of the information he presented is out in the open on the Web for anyone to see.

The fact that you have people here defending you should increase your resolve to finish this damn thing already so that the "truths" about CTE will be out, otherwise you just provide more fuel for the naysayers and more opportunities for others to present their versions before yours.
  
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