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Palmer Cue Find this week_ Szamboti Forearm? - 01-27-2020, 01:41 PM

I had a great garage sale find this weekend- one of my best ever! I found a Palmer Model 12 Limited from the 3rd Palmer Catalog, with 2 shafts, and a Palmer Deluxe Box Case- all in very close to 95% condition. Cue hits a ton! Better than any Palmer I ever played or owned. My question- I understand that some 3rd catalog Palmers had Szamboti forearms- the points on this cue extend all the way up to 2 3/4 inches from the joint collar, higher than other Palmers i have owned or seen. Also the forearm is straight maple, not BEM. The points are ebony and the veneers from the inside out are natural, orange, chartreuse, and ebony- although the outer two veneers are so tight together that it is hard even under a magnifier to discern.
would anyone know if this signifies a Szamboti possibility with this 3rd catalog Palmer?
As I said, the cue hits so, so solid - but in a very good way- seems too good to be true. the two shaft are mint- full 13MM, 12 inch pro taper, one is ivory ferrule, one is a Palmer ferrule, cue overall is very straight for its age- none of them this old are perfect.
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01-27-2020, 04:00 PM

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I had a great garage sale find this weekend- one of my best ever! I found a Palmer Model 12 Limited from the 3rd Palmer Catalog, with 2 shafts, and a Palmer Deluxe Box Case- all in very close to 95% condition. Cue hits a ton! Better than any Palmer I ever played or owned. My question- I understand that some 3rd catalog Palmers had Szamboti forearms- the points on this cue extend all the way up to 2 3/4 inches from the joint collar, higher than other Palmers i have owned or seen. Also the forearm is straight maple, not BEM. The points are ebony and the veneers from the inside out are natural, orange, chartreuse, and ebony- although the outer two veneers are so tight together that it is hard even under a magnifier to discern.
would anyone know if this signifies a Szamboti possibility with this 3rd catalog Palmer?
As I said, the cue hits so, so solid - but in a very good way- seems too good to be true. the two shaft are mint- full 13MM, 12 inch pro taper, one is ivory ferrule, one is a Palmer ferrule, cue overall is very straight for its age- none of them this old are perfect.
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Maybe contact Joe @ Classic cues....
He sure has a lot of knowledge and experience with the Szams'


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01-27-2020, 04:02 PM

That's an Adam blank


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01-27-2020, 05:01 PM

It’s a very nice fine nice Cue It is a Adam Blank But nice pick up��
  
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01-27-2020, 06:41 PM

Care to make jaws drop by sharing with us what you paid for it? Did the seller know anything about it?
  
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01-27-2020, 06:42 PM

its a newer model of one of the old style cues. gene was long gone when this cue was made. still a nice palmer and worth about 600 if you can find a willing buyer for it.
  
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01-28-2020, 05:50 AM

Not sure that Adam made forearm is correct assessment on this cue. It is NOT a Palmer Custom Cue from the 80s/90s- it is a legit Palmer THIRD catalog model 12 Limited from the early.mid 70s- did not think that Palmer was using ADAM blanks at that time. They stamped the word "PALMER" on the butt cap of their non window cues from the third catalog. The stamped the word" Palmer Custom Cue" on cues made AFTER the third catalog models- from what I know. I looked at the Palmer Collector scan of the third catalog- it is a Model 12 Limited for sure! As for what i paid for it at the tag sale-I never reveal that- I sell many cues that I find this way.

This cue is NOT from the Palmer PB or PM line- they were stamped "Palmer Custom Cues" - I believe THOSE Palmer cues used Adam blanks and NOT early 70s 3rd catalog Palmers. The family I acquired it from told me it was purchased in the early 70s.

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01-28-2020, 06:24 AM

Itís common knowledge that Palmer was sourcing blanks from Adam during production of the Third Catalog cues.

It would benefit the discussion if you would post close-ups of the forearm and veneers of this cue.
  
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01-28-2020, 07:09 AM

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Not sure that Adam made forearm is correct assessment on this cue. It is NOT a Palmer Custom Cue from the 80s/90s- it is a legit Palmer THIRD catalog model 12 Limited from the early.mid 70s- did not think that Palmer was using ADAM blanks at that time. They stamped the word "PALMER" on the butt cap of their non window cues from the third catalog. The stamped the word" Palmer Custom Cue" on cues made AFTER the third catalog models- from what I know. I looked at the Palmer Collector scan of the third catalog- it is a Model 12 Limited for sure! As for what i paid for it at the tag sale-I never reveal that- I sell many cues that I find this way.

This cue is NOT from the Palmer PB or PM line- they were stamped "Palmer Custom Cues" - I believe THOSE Palmer cues used Adam blanks and NOT early 70s 3rd catalog Palmers. The family I acquired it from told me it was purchased in the early 70s.
We can see the colors from here. Adam blanks had distinctive colors. Taiwan Orange appears to be used here. Close-ups will be helpful.


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Contact Chris Tate.... he might be able to help you out !!
  
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01-28-2020, 07:20 AM

I have the same cue !


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01-28-2020, 07:24 AM

If you knew all this info, why ask? You want validation more than you want the truth.


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01-28-2020, 08:43 AM

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If you knew all this info, why ask? You want validation more than you want the truth.
I don't know if this was a Szamboti forearm- THAT was my original request- I DO sincerely appreciate everyone's input and value their knowledge- I don't know everything about Palmer cues- so please don't turn this thread into something ugly- not my intent- so why are you going there? Having a bad day pal?
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01-28-2020, 08:55 AM

The lightness of the butt forearm appears too Bright when compared to the wood that Gus used. I had a 1978 Zam, made new, for 10 yrs.


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I don't know if this was a Szamboti forearm- THAT was my original request- I DO sincerely appreciate everyone's input and value their knowledge- I don't know everything about Palmer cues- so please don't turn this thread into something ugly- not my intent- so why are you going there? Having a bad day pal?
if you are looking for a fight somewhere - look elsewhere- you chose the wrong guy- i promise you that!
Consensus said it was an Adam blank, do you accept that? That's all the thread was ever about until you disagreed with the opinions.


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