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is this legit? whats that pin - 03-26-2020, 08:23 PM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Joss-Pool-C....c100005.m1851


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03-27-2020, 05:06 AM

Gotta buddy with ALMOST the same cue. His has a standard 3/8” X10 pin though.
I have never seen one like this!


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03-27-2020, 05:42 AM

Odd.... very odd.


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03-27-2020, 07:19 AM

Looks like somebody used a binding barrel on a broken stick, smart but heavy (undoubtedly noticeable weight). I've used them for snazzy riser shelves (strong little things).

Can't find the exact ones I bought on aliexpress, but here's a link to them in general...

https://www.mcmaster.com/fasteners/=...b74a0ak8aa2w9h

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03-27-2020, 07:28 AM

that's what I figured, it looks like it would add 3 ounces to the cues weight. might make a good break cue. if it wasn't for that pin ide buy it. that's a rare looking joss, never seen one, not even in their retired catalougues


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03-27-2020, 07:46 AM

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that's what I figured, it looks like it would add 3 ounces to the cues weight. might make a good break cue. if it wasn't for that pin ide buy it. that's a rare looking joss, never seen one, not even in their retired catalougues
I looked at it again for you, and I'm about 75% sure I'm wrong about the noticeable weight (although your 3 ounce guess does seem correct). Those are a lot smaller than the pictures make them look, after really looking at it. I believe it does add more weight than normal, but by how much would depend on the preferred pin. Dunno... if you like it maybe get it anyways, at least you'd know if a binding barrel is a feasible option (although you could have it removed and have it filled).
  
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03-27-2020, 08:04 AM

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that's what I figured, it looks like it would add 3 ounces to the cues weight. might make a good break cue. if it wasn't for that pin ide buy it. that's a rare looking joss, never seen one, not even in their retired catalougues
Why not message the seller and ask how it ended up with that pin? They would have to have modified the shaft for this also, and not sure how well that would work, with how deep that pin goes the structure of the shaft must be weakened towards the bottom, would make it easier to crack there.


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03-27-2020, 11:04 AM

Funny - now bolt names are PC

"Binding bolt" are sex bolts. But that is not what is in the cue.
What is in the cue is closer to stripper bolt. Or maybe a custom stand off.

It would be interesting to know how it is retained in the butt.

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03-27-2020, 11:07 AM

Besides the pin, the points are very rounded more so then I have seen before but maybe its just the picture


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03-27-2020, 11:31 AM

That pin has about 5mm - 6mm of thread.

What can you expect from a seller with such a dismal feedback score?

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03-27-2020, 11:48 AM

There was a custom maker doing those pins. Been featured in the gallery before.

I have it on my PC somewhere. I'll see if I can find his name.

Likely he did the work.

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03-27-2020, 12:35 PM

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Why not message the seller and ask how it ended up with that pin? They would have to have modified the shaft for this also, and not sure how well that would work, with how deep that pin goes the structure of the shaft must be weakened towards the bottom, would make it easier to crack there.
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I looked at it again for you, and I'm about 75% sure I'm wrong about the noticeable weight (although your 3 ounce guess does seem correct). Those are a lot smaller than the pictures make them look, after really looking at it. I believe it does add more weight than normal, but by how much would depend on the preferred pin. Dunno... if you like it maybe get it anyways, at least you'd know if a binding barrel is a feasible option (although you could have it removed and have it filled).
if it had a normal ( or whats considered normal) pin for cues ( 14, 18, 10, 11 thread) I would make an offer, but it could have been a job done by a guy who messes around with wood work and not cue work, and who knows what was done to it. to big a risk for 350, I wouldn't pay more than 100 as it stands as I would have it fixed and put a new shaft on it. but still, I like this cue, josses current sneaky pete model is terrible.


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