Pool's 15 most influential people/brands list
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this list is stupider than jupiter��������
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i apologize for making a rash and classless
comment with no dignity, you are right we should
move beyond childish name calling and planetary comparisons.
i would like to say that i disagree with
your process, choice of people voting,
and results in this list. jason shaw?
keep trying and better luck next year!
��i apologize for making a rash and classless
comment with no dignity, you are right we should
move beyond childish name calling and planetary comparisons.
i would like to say that i disagree with
your process, choice of people voting,
and results in this list. jason shaw?
keep trying and better luck next year!
Roys Basement was certainly at the top for 2020, we watched months and months of The Fillers and Dodong 99%of the time for free.
If it wasn't for Roy we wouldn't have seen any pool this year, not to mention how people changed their minds about Josh Filler.
You must have missed all of this.
Your guts is 100% wrong this time :thumbup:
"This annual list will no doubt be hotly debated and hopefully it will not only show who´s who, but also recognize the ones who make the list."
And, it's just awesome when a bunch of people has worked on something for days, that others spend 2 minutes reviewing it and spews out "garbage!!!" :grin::grin:
This list is for 2020. It's not a historical list. If you check out the stats for both Sharivari and DrDave, you will see why Sharivari was picked. Obvisouly DrDave belongs on a historical list...but this year, someone else squeezed passed him.
I’ll take back my insinuation of wrong doing and offer a heartfelt apology to Per and the others that participated in the process. The committee looked so diverse as to seem implausible. But I’ll take this as evidence enough to quell my doubts.
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Thank you, Matt.
That was very kind of you to do. :smile:
this list is stupider than jupiter��������
i apologize for making a rash and classless
comment with no dignity, you are right we should
move beyond childish name calling and planetary comparisons.
i would like to say that i disagree with
your process, choice of people voting,
and results in this list. jason shaw?
keep trying and better luck next year!
We will take all comments onboard, and after releasing the list for 2021, there will probably be other arguments to why the list is "garbage", "stupider than jupiter" etc etc
I got this one rant on Messenger. He was clearly feeling left out (although he was on the initial big list). He went on and on and on....how each member on the Voting Committee was in cohoots. He also felt is was really unfair that TWO representatives from AZB was on the committee, although I tried to explain to him that it only meant AZB themselves would lose 2 votes.
In his opinion, the only way to get a unbiased list was to use 24 judges (12 "experts" + 12 random ones from the community), wherof none of them knew eachother OR any of the candidates.
I mean, good luck with that :smile:
Whatever model we use, there will be a small portion not agreeing. The model we landed on, has been used in other sports for decades.
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Yes, if you consider 95% a small portion then a small portion will continue to disagree with your very strange list that is not grounded in the realities of worldwide pool today --- that is, unless you modify your methodology.
Your argument that an equipment manufacturer isn't an important powerbroker in the game is ridiculous. It can be argued that Brunswick, an equipment manufacturer, was the greatest powerbroker in American pool history.
I've been around the pro game, including in a couple of official capacities, for 45 years. I've had dealings with American, European and Asian pool concerns and know more about the world of international pool than many who voted, so mine is not an uninformed opinion.
On the brighter side, at least those voting understand that what Matchroom is doing makes them the most important powerbroker in pool today.
As the saying goes, wait until next year.
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Biloxi Boy
Man With A Golden Arm
Who is this guy, supr charged, who dares come here and inquire of us, "How say you?" (I did not interpret his question to be a request for instructions on how to pronounce "Pool's 15 most influential people/brands list". I read the question to be a request of AZB members, in a rather stilted or archaic form, to provide our opinions. His inquiry not advanced, I might note, until after the fact of voting was complete.) Then, when we respond to his request and favor him with our sincere insight, employing our vernacular, he calls us out? I am unable to fairly determine and relate to you, my brothers and sisters, which is the more outrageous insult -- the act of this interloper rejecting our heartfelt response or the actions of the authors of said presumptious list, replete with its vainglorious sins of ommission.
How many of the committee nominated and voted themselves to a position of honour? In some banana republics, such as, say, Norway, electing one's ownself may be common and accepted practice, but here, we continue to aspire to respectability and eschew such behaviour. Such indulgence, coupled with ommissions of such egregious ilk, supplies us with copious impetus to reject, and righteously so, both person and list.
And if you need it explained further, Supr, come on outside, and we can talk.
How many of the committee nominated and voted themselves to a position of honour? In some banana republics, such as, say, Norway, electing one's ownself may be common and accepted practice, but here, we continue to aspire to respectability and eschew such behaviour. Such indulgence, coupled with ommissions of such egregious ilk, supplies us with copious impetus to reject, and righteously so, both person and list.
And if you need it explained further, Supr, come on outside, and we can talk.
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That actually made my day. I am not going to get into an argument with you, but when you display such ignorance for the world outside the U.S. you kind of make it difficult to take you serious.
Undoubtlly you've got the talent of speech/writing (you know a lot of fancy words!), but I'd suggest that you look up Norway. You might be surprised to find that it regularly gets voted to be the world's best country in many categories. Not only the richest one, but also the most democratic.
Also, "the banana republic Norway", only had 1 out of 12 votes.
"How many of the committee nominated and voted themselves to a position of honour? "
If you took the time to read the information, you'd find that NONE of the voters could vote for themselves. Verified by Roy.
If, your entire posting was sarcatic. I very much appologize in advance :wink:
Out of curiosity of the process, is the voting committee the only people that voted? Or were they concerned with the logistics of voting and the actual vote was distributed to a wider audience?
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Hint - If you want more credibility/integrity as to the results, you might consider getting more than 12 individuals to vote on it next time, with a number of those voting ending up being included on the top 15 list."This annual list will no doubt be hotly debated and hopefully it will not only show who´s who, but also recognize the ones who make the list."
And, it's just awesome when a bunch of people has worked on something for days, that others spend 2 minutes reviewing it and spews out "garbage!!!" :grin::grin:
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The top 3 quarterbacks in the history of football:
Russ Jackson
Ron Lancaster
Eagle Day
What ? Football is also played outside of Canada? Regardless of that, these three are definitely the best ever.
It’s the year 2020, access to the World of billiards at your fingertips but folks still can’t see outside of their borders.
Russ Jackson
Ron Lancaster
Eagle Day
What ? Football is also played outside of Canada? Regardless of that, these three are definitely the best ever.
It’s the year 2020, access to the World of billiards at your fingertips but folks still can’t see outside of their borders.
I stopped reading it when I saw Florian #3 lol, come on man how are you supposed to be here arguing credibility with that kind of mockery, also Mike Houng/Acme has done or sponsored a shit ton of events this year if you haven't been paying attention, and leaving Greg Sullivan/Diamond of that list is just as ridiculous in itself.
The list should be called " The top 15 most influential in pool from the list I let people vote from ".
The list should be called " The top 15 most influential in pool from the list I let people vote from ".
Didn't say that 95% will disagree with the methodology, only with the results. But there are those, like me, who think you need to reconsider your methodology given the glaring absurdity of the results.
Comparing your poll to a democracy, if intended to be humorous, certainly made the grade. Actually, control by a handful of what information is released to the public is more consistent with some other political philosophies.
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So, you think nobody watches Florian? I guess the #s lie
Truth is, most people don't watch pro pool, including pool players - they just don't care and who can blame them, its boring unless you really know the game.