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10-15-2019, 01:24 PM

2020 Corvette C8 Stingray Z51: First Drive

Not great, but good. And a sign of amazing things to come.

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10-15-2019, 01:56 PM

A buddy let me drive his new C7 Z06 over the weekend. I'm used to driving fast in my V10 R8.

I was shocked at how loose and sloppy the C7 is. It wants to wander when going straight, and the rear tires break loose when you mash the gas. Under full acceleration it is a job keeping it straight, let alone through corners.

The R8 drives like it's on rails, and stays dead straight under full acceleration.

I'm hoping the mid-engine layout will solve the Vette's handling problems.
  
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10-15-2019, 02:50 PM

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A buddy let me drive his new C7 Z06 over the weekend. I'm used to driving fast in my V10 R8.

I was shocked at how loose and sloppy the C7 is. It wants to wander when going straight, and the rear tires break loose when you mash the gas. Under full acceleration it is a job keeping it straight, let alone through corners.

The R8 drives like it's on rails, and stays dead straight under full acceleration.

I'm hoping the mid-engine layout will solve the Vette's handling problems.
I was watching some stuff on you tube. Anyone going fast in that car should be scared. I've seen a few instances where the driver lost control of it and smashed it up.

They should not have released any of those to the public, people are gonna die. They've got a mess to clean up.

I'll take the most tricked out Ford GT instead.


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10-15-2019, 10:47 PM

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I was watching some stuff on you tube. Anyone going fast in that car should be scared. I've seen a few instances where the driver lost control of it and smashed it up.

They should not have released any of those to the public, people are gonna die. They've got a mess to clean up.

I'll take the most tricked out Ford GT instead.
LOL yes and all you have to do is pay for it at roughly $ 450K.
  
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LOL yes and all you have to do is pay for it at roughly $ 450K.
It actually ended up closer to $500K. Plus you had to apply and beg them to take your 1/2 million dollars too. I know a few guys who are local to me(Texas) that have them and you would think they won the lottery by being allowed to own one. Great cars but the terms to get one were kind of offensive if you ask me. I am happy for them however because it was a dream come true for them.Now on the secondary market a few are coming available and they are closer to 1.1 million..plus.


The Vette even the newest ones have always been a compromise between great performance and price. You see that in a lot of the interior pieces. The newest one is a level up in that area however.

The new C8 R is going to be a beast!

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10-15-2019, 11:14 PM

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A buddy let me drive his new C7 Z06 over the weekend. I'm used to driving fast in my V10 R8.

I was shocked at how loose and sloppy the C7 is. It wants to wander when going straight, and the rear tires break loose when you mash the gas. Under full acceleration it is a job keeping it straight, let alone through corners.

The R8 drives like it's on rails, and stays dead straight under full acceleration.

I'm hoping the mid-engine layout will solve the Vette's handling problems.
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10-16-2019, 06:37 AM

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I was watching some stuff on you tube. Anyone going fast in that car should be scared. I've seen a few instances where the driver lost control of it and smashed it up.

They should not have released any of those to the public, people are gonna die. They've got a mess to clean up.

I'll take the most tricked out Ford GT instead.
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And at the world famous Nürburgring it hit 7:39 on the 12.9 mile course. 2 seconds off the 911's best ever time. 2 seconds. The vette was driven by a Chevy engineer, not a pro race driver. Oh, i'm sure he's damn good, but he's still not a pro. It was NOT even the ZR1, but a Stingray with Z51 suspension package. The same dudes that set up the Z28 that beat the 911 at Nurburgring. I'm sure they just got lucky, they had the wind to their backs or something

So, yes, I agree, some people should NOT be allowed to own fast cars but lets not blame the car. I can show you utube videos of folks crashing Ferrari's. It happens. Sure is not the car.


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Porsche 911Carrerra - 1:25.60

And at the world famous Nürburgring it hit 7:39 on the 12.9 mile course. 2 seconds off the 911's best ever time. 2 seconds. The vette was driven by a Chevy engineer, not a pro race driver. Oh, i'm sure he's damn good, but he's still not a pro. It was NOT even the ZR1, but a Stingray with Z51 suspension package. The same dudes that set up the Z28 that beat the 911 at Nurburgring. I'm sure they just got lucky, they had the wind to their backs or something

So, yes, I agree, some people should NOT be allowed to own fast cars but lets not blame the car. I can show you utube videos of folks crashing Ferrari's. It happens. Sure is not the car.
I totally agree that not everyone is equipped to handle speed. I've had several sport bikes that would easily go over 150mph. People would say to me, I'd kill myself if I had one of those. To which I would reply, then you should never own one.

Maybe they've worked the kinks out of it, idk. I do know I saw two crash as pace cars iirc. They weren't getting crazy in it or driving like idiots. Back end started kicking around and the next thing you know, their sideways in the road. The vehicle has or had stability issues, that's known.


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Porsche 911Carrerra - 1:25.60

And at the world famous Nürburgring it hit 7:39 on the 12.9 mile course. 2 seconds off the 911's best ever time. 2 seconds. The vette was driven by a Chevy engineer, not a pro race driver. Oh, i'm sure he's damn good, but he's still not a pro. It was NOT even the ZR1, but a Stingray with Z51 suspension package. The same dudes that set up the Z28 that beat the 911 at Nurburgring. I'm sure they just got lucky, they had the wind to their backs or something

So, yes, I agree, some people should NOT be allowed to own fast cars but lets not blame the car. I can show you utube videos of folks crashing Ferrari's. It happens. Sure is not the car.
There is no doubt that Vettes can go fast. The car I drove has 650 BHP. I know the stats, and I've seen the track results.

But they are much more difficult and dangerous to drive fast than real supercars. I did not feel confident driving it fast.
  
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My first and last GM. Aside from a bit of hiccups the service was 5 star pathetic. LS2 with a slipping clutch directly from the showroom. One dealer was so bad I’m permanently damaged from ever owning or taking a GM as a gift. Especially a Corvette. And it hurts to say that.
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10-16-2019, 01:07 PM

2020 Corvette C8 Z51 Track Test! - One Take

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10-16-2019, 02:12 PM

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There is no doubt that Vettes can go fast. The car I drove has 650 BHP. I know the stats, and I've seen the track results.

But they are much more difficult and dangerous to drive fast than real supercars. I did not feel confident driving it fast.
Actually, go fast and handle well. Those were the track results. Nobody is claiming a Vette is a Lamborghini, McLaren or a Ferrari. But, then again, what is? There is a reason they cost $250K or more. And why they have the fastest lap times at the Nurburgring.

Dangerous? You can't get those track numbers out of a C7, stock, if it was some how "dangerous". The test drivers would have HAMMERED it. It would have been in every car magazine. There is nothing or nobody anywhere saying the C7 is dangerous, or handles poorly. Nobody. I'm sure if you look hard enough, there will be that one guy that cracked it up.

but, not a MT, Car and Driver, or the various driving schools, or even on line, I could not find a thing about it. I think the power is just too much for some folks. Most folks online love it. I test drove it before I bought the C6, and I loved the handling. I had no problem putting it through its paces and the sales guy was not the least bit nervous. I had to catch myself few time cause when I was hitting the turns, I realized I was going much faster than I thought I was..... those brakes came in handy on a few of them lol

But, lets be honest, nobody is pushing their cars to the limit. Most people will never need nor use all the handling aspects and HP that they have. Not really into hitting corners in the hood at 65mph


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A buddy let me drive his new C7 Z06 over the weekend. I'm used to driving fast in my V10 R8.

I was shocked at how loose and sloppy the C7 is. It wants to wander when going straight, and the rear tires break loose when you mash the gas. Under full acceleration it is a job keeping it straight, let alone through corners.

The R8 drives like it's on rails, and stays dead straight under full acceleration.

I'm hoping the mid-engine layout will solve the Vette's handling problems.

A few years ago a guy with his teenage son pulled up when I was trading in my 2013 GT500. His son was eyeballing mine, and I was eyeballing his dad's Lol. Among many others, I also had a C6 Z06 for a while, besides the horrible seats, the steering was noticeably loose...didn't care for it at all.

  
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A few years ago a guy with his teenage son pulled up when I was trading in my 2013 GT500. His son was eyeballing mine, and I was eyeballing his dad's Lol. Among many others, I also had a C6 Z06 for a while, besides the horrible seats, the steering was noticeably loose...didn't care for it at all.

LOL. The seats I can agree with. But, not horrible, just not good. The interior is cheap plastic, almost everything squeaks when you open or close something. More funny than anything. But, it is an American car, so there is that, LOL


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