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Trump speech; workers paid to listen & banned from 'anything viewed as resistance' - 08-18-2019, 03:39 AM




Heil Drumpf...Making The Father Land Great Again...one factory worker at a time.


Workers at a Royal Dutch Shell plant in Pennsylvania were forced to choose between attending a speech by Donald Trump or earning less than their coworkers who did.

Attendance was optional, but contract workers who chose not to stand in the crowd would not qualify for time-and-a-half pay when they arrived at work on Friday, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported.

Workers at the unfinished Pennsylvania Petrochemicals Complex had to arrive at 7am, scan their ID cards and stand for hours until the US president’s speech began.

“NO SCAN, NO PAY,” a supervisor for one of the contractors wrote to workers.

The contractor’s memo also banned yelling, protesting or “anything viewed as resistance” at Mr Trump’s speech, according to the newspaper.

“An underlying theme of the event is to promote good will from the unions,” the document said. “Your building trades leaders and jobs stewards have agreed to this.”

Several companies with thousands of unionised workers have contracts with Shell, one the world’s largest oil and gas companies.

The Washington Post was unable to immediately reach Shell or the plant’s unions for comment on Saturday.

Mr Trump has a long history of falsely claiming that liberal demonstrators have been paid to protest. When people angrily flooded the streets of some cities after he won the presidency, he accused them of being “professional protesters” who had been “incited by the media”.

When women protested Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court, he said they were “paid professionals”.

And when protests bubbled up at airports in 2017 in response to Mr Trump’s ban on immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries, he alleged that the demonstrators were “professional anarchists, thugs and paid protesters”.

The president’s speech on Tuesday felt at times like a campaign rally, The Washington Post reported.

Between remarks about US energy production, Mr Trump urged the workers to support his re-election and complained about his perceived enemies: the media, the Democrats running for president and the Academy Awards.

About 5,000 workers attended the speech, according to Newsweek.

Shell spokesman Ray Fisher told the Post-Gazette that workers at the plant have a 56-hour workweek, which includes 16 hours of overtime pay – so workers who showed up on Tuesday were paid for the week at a higher rate.

Another Shell spokesman, Curtis Smith, said workers who chose to skip the rally received “paid time off”, which does not count as hours worked and therefore does not trigger overtime pay.

Mr Trump’s speech was treated as a training that differed from other training sessions only in that it included “a guest speaker who happened to be the president,” Mr Smith said.

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“We do these several times a year with various speakers,” he told Newsweek. “The morning session (7-10am) included safety training and other work-related activities.”

Ken Broadbent, business manager for the union Steamfitters Local 449, said his workers respect Mr Trump for his title, regardless of whether they liked or disliked him.

Anyone who did not want to go to work on the day of Mr Trump’s speech could skip it, he said.

“This is just what Shell wanted to do and we went along with it,” Mr Broadbent said.
  
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08-18-2019, 03:55 AM

They got paid to listen to a speech and were told to be civil and have good manners. Oh, the horrors.
  
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08-18-2019, 04:33 AM

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They got paid to listen to a speech and were told to be civil and have good manners. Oh, the horrors.
Granted...no one really wants to listen to a Trump speech. He has to be the most inarticulate president, ever.

It's a "horror" that USA factory workers are "paid" to listen to a Trump speech and get their pay docked if they don't. Talk about political workplace oppression.

What happened to the first amendment? Shouldn't these workers be allowed to voice their opinion freely?

Even Boo, if they don't like what Trump has to say?
  
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08-18-2019, 05:03 AM

Sit down for this. It's very possible that they liked what they heard - - even in his inarticulate way. You seem to have this idea that everyone is as hateful towards this president as you. He seems to appeal to blue collar, hard-working people.



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Granted...no one really wants to listen to a Trump speech. He has to be the most inarticulate president, ever.

It's a "horror" that USA factory workers are "paid" to listen to a Trump speech and get their pay docked if they don't. Talk about political workplace oppression.

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Even Boo, if they don't like what Trump has to say?
  
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08-18-2019, 05:10 AM

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Sit down for this. It's very possible that they liked what they heard - - even in his inarticulate way. You seem to have this idea that everyone is as hateful towards this president as you. He seems to appeal to blue collar, hard-working people.


Sit down for this one. They were paid to attend and not say anything negative.

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08-18-2019, 05:16 AM

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Granted...no one really wants to listen to a Trump speech. He has to be the most inarticulate president, ever.

It's a "horror" that USA factory workers are "paid" to listen to a Trump speech and get their pay docked if they don't. Talk about political workplace oppression.

What happened to the first amendment? Shouldn't these workers be allowed to voice their opinion freely?

Even Boo, if they don't like what Trump has to say?
Thats why his crowds are so small. Only 40 or 50k......well maybe he packs out an occasional stadium and has people standing outside that cant get inside cuz no more seats. But but Hes gotta be wrong,right. Wah wah wah

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08-18-2019, 07:07 AM

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Granted...no one really wants to listen to a Trump speech. He has to be the most inarticulate president, ever.

It's a "horror" that USA factory workers are "paid" to listen to a Trump speech and get their pay docked if they don't. Talk about political workplace oppression.

What happened to the first amendment? Shouldn't these workers be allowed to voice their opinion freely?

Even Boo, if they don't like what Trump has to say?
I saw the memo for this two days ago.

- Attendance wasn't mandatory, but you wouldn't be paid if you didn't attend.

- Their pay wasn't docked. If they stayed home, they wouldn't get paid for it. Because of that they wouldn't make overtime on Friday.

I've skipped out on quite a few meetings over the years. Guess what? I didn't get paid for not attending.

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One thing that did irritate me is that it's understanding that they couldn't bring their lunch boxes or coolers. There was no mentions of bags, but let's assume that's out as well. I saw that breakfast was included, but not lunch. If they're going to do this they should provide lunch as well


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08-18-2019, 07:14 AM

He's choosing to believe "truth" over Facts. It's a leftist thing that their leading presidential candidate endorses. Some of the others prefer lies over truth or facts, but they call it embellishing.


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I saw the memo for this two days ago.

- Attendance wasn't mandatory, but you wouldn't be paid if you didn't attend.

- Their pay wasn't docked. If they stayed home, they wouldn't get paid for it. Because of that they wouldn't make overtime on Friday.

I've skipped out on quite a few meetings over the years. Guess what? I didn't get paid for not attending.
  
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08-18-2019, 07:27 AM

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I saw the memo for this two days ago.

- Attendance wasn't mandatory, but you wouldn't be paid if you didn't attend.

It seems like if you want to get paid you had to attend and not disagree with Mr. Trump. Yes or no?
  
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08-18-2019, 07:33 AM

You get 50% more if you come by -
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08-18-2019, 07:39 AM

You could disagree, you couldn't cause a fuss over it. If they are being paid, then the boss can pretty much suggest how they should behave. They were on the clock. The President was a guest at their business.




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08-18-2019, 07:44 AM

What a stupid thread, another mole hill made into a TDS mountain.

They were "forced" to choose. Give me a break. The worker could just not attend and go about their day and week as usual. "Forced" to choose to live your day as you normally would, oh the travesty!, the inhumanity!

What a completely stupid ass article, written just for TDS sufferers like the sheep OP.


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08-18-2019, 08:09 AM

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It seems like if you want to get paid you had to attend and not disagree with Mr. Trump. Yes or no?
You had to act civilized and show some respect, what an outrage.


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You had to act civilized and show some respect, what an outrage.
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08-18-2019, 08:20 AM

LOL....just LOL...


If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.


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