APA e-mails are up, is the APA in trouble?
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I dunno if those numbers are accurate, buy if they are I see why some people don't want to discuss and say its nobodies business.
Had to look it up, never heard of it before.
Adjust your math the team fee for DJ is 40 dollars a team.
https://triad.apaleagues.com/CustomPage.aspx?q=3753#:~:targetText=The%20Double%20Jeopardy%20format%20allows,tables%20at%20the%20same%20time.&targetText=Carrying%20anywhere%20from%20the%20minimum%204%20common%20players%20to%208%20common%20players.
Double Jeopardy
A Double Jeopardy division is actually two separate divisions in one. The Double Jeopardy format allows players to play on both an 8 Ball and a 9 Ball team. Both team matches are played on adjacent tables at the same time. Since both team matches are played at the same time, it doesn't add any more time to your league night. The 8 Ball and 9 Ball teams don't have to be identical. Some of the players may choose to be on only one of the teams, and additional players can be added to the other team. Wow! Tell me more!...Team rosters can either be the same on 'both' your teams (the most common) or your team may actually consist of separate 8 Ball and 9 Ball rosters. Carrying anywhere from the minimum 4 common players to 8 common players.
What are the benefits of Double Jeopardy? Well to begin with, it's TWICE THE FUN! You should never have to sit all night, you will play 8 ball or 9 Ball or maybe BOTH if you want. It's Double your chance for you team to Qualify for the LTC's. It's TWICE THE ACTION for all you pool junkies! What else?... Well, for those of you that only have one night free a week for pool but can't decide on either 8 Ball or 9 ball, this is your perfect solution... a 2-for-1 deal!
Sounds good, but what does this cost?... The team fees are only $40 per team. Remember though, that Double Jeopardy is actually 'two' teams. If you set your team up right, everyone will play every week, it costs $1 less and you have two chances to qualify for Vegas!
What else should I know?... Any host location needs to have a minimum of 2 pool tables available for league play.
Adjust your math the team fee for DJ is 40 dollars a team.
https://triad.apaleagues.com/CustomPage.aspx?q=3753#:~:targetText=The%20Double%20Jeopardy%20format%20allows,tables%20at%20the%20same%20time.&targetText=Carrying%20anywhere%20from%20the%20minimum%204%20common%20players%20to%208%20common%20players.
Double Jeopardy
A Double Jeopardy division is actually two separate divisions in one. The Double Jeopardy format allows players to play on both an 8 Ball and a 9 Ball team. Both team matches are played on adjacent tables at the same time. Since both team matches are played at the same time, it doesn't add any more time to your league night. The 8 Ball and 9 Ball teams don't have to be identical. Some of the players may choose to be on only one of the teams, and additional players can be added to the other team. Wow! Tell me more!...Team rosters can either be the same on 'both' your teams (the most common) or your team may actually consist of separate 8 Ball and 9 Ball rosters. Carrying anywhere from the minimum 4 common players to 8 common players.
What are the benefits of Double Jeopardy? Well to begin with, it's TWICE THE FUN! You should never have to sit all night, you will play 8 ball or 9 Ball or maybe BOTH if you want. It's Double your chance for you team to Qualify for the LTC's. It's TWICE THE ACTION for all you pool junkies! What else?... Well, for those of you that only have one night free a week for pool but can't decide on either 8 Ball or 9 ball, this is your perfect solution... a 2-for-1 deal!
Sounds good, but what does this cost?... The team fees are only $40 per team. Remember though, that Double Jeopardy is actually 'two' teams. If you set your team up right, everyone will play every week, it costs $1 less and you have two chances to qualify for Vegas!
What else should I know?... Any host location needs to have a minimum of 2 pool tables available for league play.
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Hate for Paul Newman? Where did you pull that out of? I think it is one of the best classics ever made. I made a joke... like when Ron White said bouncers jerk off when watching Roadhouse.
And you say" you come off like a pompous bastard and I don't think that helps your case. Berating grown ass men for how they spend their leisure time". Isnt that what SBC has been doing this whole thread?
And you cannot deny that gambling, including hustling, IS the reason pool players have a bad rap. I would like to change that. If I ever hit the lottery, I assure you the school pool will happen.
Also... re read my previous post. Where did I mention pro sports? Only the Mosconi cup was mentioned and it was meant to point out the missing team cooperation.
Lowest fees I've seen at $4 per match. Most are minimum $7. that's why I used that number. Smaller areas like the one you referenced lower the fees. That takes is down to $172,800 - 34,560 (for APA nationals) $138,240
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So 138,240 is gross, you still have to pay for the teams trips to vegas. Guessing about 5k per team. Expenses in regards to collecting and imputing scores each week. Hall rental for tourneys, maybe even renting tables for your bigger tourneys, at 3X per year.
You might even be paying off a business loan or second mortgage you had to do in order to buy the league in the first place.
Seems like more of a labor of love to me than a get-rich quick scheme.
You might even be paying off a business loan or second mortgage you had to do in order to buy the league in the first place.
Seems like more of a labor of love to me than a get-rich quick scheme.
90 teams is small for an APA league. Not saying it doesn't happen but most local playoffs and such just use the bar tables they play on during the week. No need to rent anything.
Those numbers could be off in either direction. $4 per match is almost unheard of and I used double jeopardy for the examples. If there were 90 teams, chances are there could be doubles and Masters as well. Fees varies for all.
Those numbers could be off in either direction. $4 per match is almost unheard of and I used double jeopardy for the examples. If there were 90 teams, chances are there could be doubles and Masters as well. Fees varies for all.
The league cited claims to have over 100 teams, IMO that would be just over 100, not 150. So that is a small league as well.
If you don't have a room to house a large tourney you need to find a place (pay) and rent tables. Most bars have 1-2 tables you going to run a 16 team tourney on 2 tables?
One of the smaller APA leagues here in PA, rents a large conference room at a hotel for their tourneys. The larger APA leagues in Maryland use either Bank Shot Billiards in Laurel, or the Green Room in Sparrows Point MD.
Even if you had a bar with lets say 6-8 tables for the tourney do you think the owner is going to give away the use of his business for free to the APA to hold the event? I am sure the LO pays something for the use of the establishment.
If you don't have a room to house a large tourney you need to find a place (pay) and rent tables. Most bars have 1-2 tables you going to run a 16 team tourney on 2 tables?
One of the smaller APA leagues here in PA, rents a large conference room at a hotel for their tourneys. The larger APA leagues in Maryland use either Bank Shot Billiards in Laurel, or the Green Room in Sparrows Point MD.
Even if you had a bar with lets say 6-8 tables for the tourney do you think the owner is going to give away the use of his business for free to the APA to hold the event? I am sure the LO pays something for the use of the establishment.
Dont forget those pesky taxes!
I guess I'm spoiled a little. The last place I lived used one of 2 venues, bnoth bars. One had 15 tables and the other 20-25. NEither place opened the tables...paid by the game as always. However, that area had 220 teams and 15 tables was enough to do the job. Where I am at now, there are at least 3 places that have 20+ tables
So when all is said and done, you may need a real job to afford to run an APA league on the side.
I’ve learned that pool is a game where the players want no one to make money but themselves. How do you expect anyone to invest in the game if they don’t make money. NFL,nba , mlb.. they don’t invest that money for the love of the sport. Every year everyone gets pissed off at Allen Hopkins because god forbid he makes money with the super billiards expo. Forget how many people descend on the place for the best weekend of their year and all the effort and money he has to put up to make it happen .. he’s making money off pool and some how that’s terrible.
This is one of many things that hold the game back.
This is one of many things that hold the game back.
What makes you think I play in the APA. Sorry, ACS for me. Sure, the nobody, nobody ever heard of is sure he would run over someone he never met.
Well, I'll pay your airfare to Chicago. There is a LONG line of buddies that play in the APA that will match up with you? Me, I'm not much of a gambler, but I'll take dibs after they soften you up
lolWhat makes you think I play in the APA. Sorry, ACS for me. Sure, the nobody, nobody ever heard of is sure he would run over someone he never met.
Well, I'll pay your airfare to Chicago. There is a LONG line of buddies that play in the APA that will match up with you? Me, I'm not much of a gambler, but I'll take dibs after they soften you up
Great book me a flight. 5k minimum. Anytime you are ready. You and you league buds cower when there's real players around. See it time after time.
Rule Number 1, don't say something in a pool hall if you aren't willing to bet.
PM me, I got plenty of people you can post with.
What makes you think I play in the APA. Sorry, ACS for me. Sure, the nobody, nobody ever heard of is sure he would run over someone he never met.
Well, I'll pay your airfare to Chicago. There is a LONG line of buddies that play in the APA that will match up with you? Me, I'm not much of a gambler, but I'll take dibs after they soften you up
PLease keep us up to speed on this. This could be bigger than Lou and JB...
When I said 90 teams that mean 90 team across all games.
My math says that each week 5 players on those 90 teams pay 8 bucks to play. That is 3600 a week GROSS!!!
Not a lot of money.
Then the regional playoffs we go to the Valley Forge Casino and they have to rent the hall and the tables. Then they have to pay to send teams and individuals to Vegas
NOT A LOT OF MONEY!!!
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