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Phil Mickelson Misses 18-inch Putt During the Opening Round at Pebble Beach - 06-14-2019, 01:10 PM

It isn't only pool players that miss easy shots. Golfers do it, too.

Don't feel so bad the next time you miss.

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06-14-2019, 02:04 PM

Years ago my league captain was the owner of the pool hall, a former road player and a money player who played every day.

After he missed an easy shot at a critical time, I told him I would have bet my life he would make it. He said, 'so would I!!!' To be fair, it was at an infamous hell-hole with no air conditioning and brutal high humidity in the summer, but still...

I have also seen the best NBA free throw percentage shooters (90%+) miss two in a row, which is < 1% likely. Moral of the story: sh!t happens! Just wait a while, and you'll see many semi-impossible things occur.


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06-14-2019, 02:23 PM

The opposite occurs as well to balance things out. Like a hole in one that nobody can repeat back to back, so with the bad, there also comes the unexpected good.


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06-14-2019, 02:39 PM

It's easier to miss an 18" putt than an 18" straight in shot in pool.
Some putts are tricky.
Although I've played on pool tables that would level the playing field


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06-14-2019, 03:15 PM

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It's easier to miss an 18" putt than an 18" straight in shot in pool.
Some putts are tricky.
Although I've played on pool tables that would level the playing field
Both holes are about the same size (4.25" is the standard for golf holes). But the much smaller golf ball is only 39% the size of the hole, and a pool ball is closer to 50% the size. So there is more margin of error available in sinking a golf ball.

I'd say hitting a round object accurately with a flat surface squared up to the line is easier than hitting a round object with another round object hit by a rounded tip, considering no deflection or throw effects.

The tilt of the green sometimes offsets all of that, if there is one, but only when it makes the path break. Not if it's straight uphill or downhill. Was the putt tricky in that way, or did Phil show the yips?


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06-14-2019, 03:48 PM

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It's easier to miss an 18" putt than an 18" straight in shot in pool.
Some putts are tricky.
Although I've played on pool tables that would level the playing field
I've played a lot of golf and pool and I agree with the above.
A real good pool player Neptune Joe Frady (RIP) was also a pretty good golfer.
I asked him which game was harder pool or golf?
Without hesitation he said golf.


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I've played a lot of golf and pool and I agree with the above.
A real good pool player Neptune Joe Frady (RIP) was also a pretty good golfer.
I asked him which game was harder pool or golf?
Without hesitation he said golf.
Do you think he meant putting, per se, or more the entire game, though?


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The tilt of the green sometimes offsets all of that, if there is one, but only when it makes the path break. Not if it's straight uphill or downhill. Was the putt tricky in that way, or did Phil show the yips?
The putt wasn't tricky and he didn't yip. The stroke itself looked fine. Putts with any kind of 'break' to be factored in always involve seemingly infinite different potential combinations of line that you start the ball on and speed you hit it, many of which different combinations would all result in the ball entering the hole at the same place. But it doesn't look to me that he was playing for any break of any significance.

Nor do I think he hit it 'too hard' because if he had done, it would have picked up a lot more speed when the lip slung it out at 90 degrees and it would have finished a lot further from the hole than it did.
Everything about that putt and the way he approached it suggests he was trying to hit it on near centre cup line, especially because he hit it at pretty much perfect standard holing speed (ie the speed that would take the ball about 18/24 inches past the hole if you miss the hole completely, no matter how far away you are putting from). He just aimed it too casually and too wide, accidentally aiming it at the left lip when he intended to aim it pretty much left centre cup.

It happens to the best, I've seen shorter putts than that casually/carelessly missed on both European and PGA Tours, even seen the putter barely whiff the top of the ball or miss the ball completely, the latter usually during one handed attempts to tap a ball into the hole with the back edge of the putter from a couple of inches. Most pros only do that once in their career before that casual habit stops. Azinger has seen shorter putts missed for sure, he was probably just making it more interesting for the viewers

Ernie Els took 6 putts from a few feet away a couple of seasons ago and so did my young mate Danny Lee. That usually happens due to getting flustered or enraged. I have a very low handicap pal with a volcanic temper who I once saw carelessly tapping the ball from one side of the hole to the other from a few inches on one hole so many times that I thought we were going to have to get a torch and still be there at midnight:....until he finally lost his rag completely, addressed his putter behind the ball for a 6 inch putt and then violently whacked the ball about 50 yards off the green and into a lake.....then slung the putter in after it


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Both holes are about the same size (4.25" is the standard for golf holes). But the much smaller golf ball is only 39% the size of the hole, and a pool ball is closer to 50% the size. So there is more margin of error available in sinking a golf ball.

I'd say hitting a round object accurately with a flat surface squared up to the line is easier than hitting a round object with another round object hit by a rounded tip, considering no deflection or throw effects.
Brings to mind something.

Some friends I used to play with a few years ago, all of us very low handicap amateurs or club teaching pros and half decent snooker or pool players. About once a month, for fun we'd mix things up and play 9 hole money matches with quirky rules built in. One of our regular fun rules was that after reaching the green, instead of putting, everyone had to lie down flat and 'putt' using any club from our bag held like a snooker/pool cue and stroking the ball toward the hole using the end where the club grip is. Long 'putts' were quite difficult but I don't remember anyone missing from a couple of feet, even after a few drinks and even considering we were cueing the golf ball with a fat rubber covered 'tip' nearly as wide as the golf ball

Another was having to use a tennis ball instead of a golf ball for a few holes. You wouldn't believe how far a tennis ball DOESN'T go no matter how hard a scratch golfer smacks it with a driver


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06-14-2019, 11:45 PM

Sounds like he took it for granted and didn't confirm his line. Been there.

A game that captain I mentioned came up with was using a golf ball for a cue ball. With the weight difference, it always bounced back off a pool ball as if drawn. Shape was... semi-impossible.


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Do you think he meant putting, per se, or more the entire game, though?
He meant the entire game.


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He meant the entire game.
Even as a non-golfer, I would agree. There are SO many variables to take into account, it's amazing.

I will note this, however, that applies to top competition. Nobody loses in golf without getting their chance at the course, and several chances at it over the daily rounds. In top pool play, a player may lose without any chance at all (rarely, but possibly), but more often just by missing one or two shots, or even breaking dry once.

Pool rarely assures an equal chance in play, other than when playing equal offense.


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