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10-08-2019, 05:51 PM

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Did you say earlier that yiur friend was a 725 player? If that's correct and you player better than he does, well, you are at a minimum a low tier pro speed player.

I play people that are in the 700ish to 740ish range and if I miss, I lose.

If your above 725 this entire thread was not needed.....

Am i misreading something?

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Four people involved in the story: guy who likes to bet high ( unknown speed ), middle man aka a guy I know ( prob 580 Fargo ), me, and my friend whoís stronger than me ( 725 Fargo ). Iíve done 5 packs on a barbox but 725 friend has done 8 packs on a 9 footer. I also know a ton of strong players but wanna check out this guy first. I think if I lowkey gently hurt his feelings ( Iím really good at that ) and take some twenties I might clock him. My plan is to play 20 a game half my speed and see what happens.




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10-08-2019, 07:14 PM

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That's not the video he was referring to. He was talking about a video (i've seen it i think it's on roy's fb) of Aranas getting completely out-moved playing last pocket on a bar table against a guy who just soft broke and moved. Aranas got drilled because he tried to get out every rack and it just wasn't doable. Last pocket is a total gaffe game when played like this, and even though you think you can just run out on his nonsense, it slowly sets in that you can't. Or at least not a high enough % of the time to win the set.

There was a random eastern European guy who came into our pool hall, where there are some legitimately world class one pocket players, and beat people out of thousands playing last pocket 8 ball. Mika was hanging around at the time, and when Mika saw him he goes "oh yeah, that guy goes all over Europe beating pros at last pocket 8 ball. I wouldn't play him that game" So that should tell you something right there.
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10-08-2019, 07:16 PM

That's what I was alluding to in my post.
Hidden camera?
Should I send in my friend or should I play.
Won't lose 500 to make 5000

So many people on here don't gamble, which is fine, but the OP really has no clue.

If someone wants to gamble the options are pretty simple.
Play, don't play, stake someone else, use hidden camera and report back to everyone.


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Your post and the one you quoted really have me doubting you(or the person you quoted) know anything about gambling.

How are you not going to show money? Are you not going to post? Is your opponent not going to post?

I wish I could watch this disaster unfold, except the part of having to testify in court as a witness when this goes severely sideways.
  
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reminds me of a trip north and east long ago - 10-08-2019, 07:41 PM

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That's not the video he was referring to. He was talking about a video (i've seen it i think it's on roy's fb) of Aranas getting completely out-moved playing last pocket on a bar table against a guy who just soft broke and moved. Aranas got drilled because he tried to get out every rack and it just wasn't doable. Last pocket is a total gaffe game when played like this, and even though you think you can just run out on his nonsense, it slowly sets in that you can't. Or at least not a high enough % of the time to win the set.

There was a random eastern European guy who came into our pool hall, where there are some legitimately world class one pocket players, and beat people out of thousands playing last pocket 8 ball. Mika was hanging around at the time, and when Mika saw him he goes "oh yeah, that guy goes all over Europe beating pros at last pocket 8 ball. I wouldn't play him that game" So that should tell you something right there.

I don't remember where I went, been a long time. Upper Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, lower Mississippi to complete the loop. Might have nicked a few more states. One of the first stops after I had a few hundred miles on the clock, playing eightball for a few dollars. I pocketed the eight and my opponent told me I lost! "What?"

"You have to bank the eight." Sure enough, everybody in that place banked the eight. Not long after, another eight ball game, you have to call your shots. No problem. Then I found out that included rubbing rails and the inside rails of the pocket! Somewhere along there I got into an area where they played last pocket. As usual, nobody mentioned that little detail until I lost the first game. I didn't find last pocket that big of a deal but then again I wasn't playing masters of the game.

I didn't find any serious action that trip but I had a more or less good time, saw some pretty country, and came home with enough more than I left with to cover bills for awhile. I considered that loop a few more times but those folks didn't post the rules anywhere and I think a few were made up spur of the moment. The girls were prettier in Acadiana anyway!

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10-08-2019, 07:53 PM

Did they ever pull the ole you call 3 rails and it brushes just north of the point as it goes in the pocket and they say that is 4 rails?

Gotta love that one.

"You have to bank the eight." Sure enough, everybody in that place banked the eight. Not long after, another eight ball game, you have to call your shots. No problem. Then I found out that included rubbing rails and the inside rails of the pocket! Somewhere along there I got into an area where they played last pocket. As usual, nobody mentioned that little detail until I lost the first game. I didn't find last pocket that big of a deal but then again I wasn't playing masters of the game.

I didn't find any serious action that trip but I had a more or less good time, saw some pretty country, and came home with enough more than I left with to cover bills for awhile. I considered that loop a few more times but those folks didn't post the rules anywhere and I think a few were made up spur of the moment. The girls were prettier in Acadiana anyway!

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10-08-2019, 07:58 PM

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Four people involved in the story: guy who likes to bet high ( unknown speed ), middle man aka a guy I know ( prob 580 Fargo ), me, and my friend whoís stronger than me ( 725 Fargo ). Iíve done 5 packs on a barbox but 725 friend has done 8 packs on a 9 footer. I also know a ton of strong players but wanna check out this guy first. I think if I lowkey gently hurt his feelings ( Iím really good at that ) and take some twenties I might clock him. My plan is to play 20 a game half my speed and see what happens.
Aw, ok.

In that case, I would for sure do two things: 1) send a detective to clock him. 2) send weakest player that could beat him.

Then: repeat #2 until it dried up.

Like some have said, $20 a rack probably wont bring his game so the detective wont be able to clock him. If he's a higher stakes player, you'll have to put more up to see, unless you or your detective doesn't mind spending a lot of time detecting without playing, which could take a while and brings a whole other set of issues depending on the room.

I say it sounds a little off and it sounds like someone is gonna get screwed.

Good luck,

Jeff


I knew a fellow that thought he was a good boxer because he was in a position to befriend a lot of "professional boxers". It cost him azzwhippens till he realized he wasn't what he thought/wished he was.

Do you know anyone like the "wannabe" boxer in the pool world?
  
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10-08-2019, 08:45 PM

GŁero that don't understand Spanish going to a barrio pool room with five large.

I want some action, but nothing to do with the game.


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10-08-2019, 11:30 PM

[QUOTE=. I think if I lowkey gently hurt his feelings ( Iím really good at that ) and take some twenties I might clock him. My plan is to play 20 a game half my speed and see what happens.[/QUOTE]

And he is losing 20s, playing a ball under you still, seeding the big bet. I lose $50-100

all day to get me the $1000-$5000...if I knew the fish. Which he does. If you don't know

who the sucker is...it is you.
  
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10-09-2019, 05:01 AM

this thread is a farce

the whole thing is so unbelievable

someone is trying to make the rest of us think he is a sucker

whether it is the poster
the guy he kinda trust,or later describes as a friend
or
the mysterious stranger who will play anybody in the world a game for $10,000


I think I recognize that unusual aroma emanating from the kitchen as
some form of rodent

only on AZ would a thread like this be discussed


with any degree of seriousness


Let's think it over,now we are going to play for $19,000 but not shpow any money because we
are afrayd of getting heisted even though we will be taking a small army for protection,but the real fear is that some guy playing for $10,000 might not have the same affinity to the Marquis de Queensburu rules

Oh heaven forbid,rumor is this would be rogue might have misplaced the cube of chalk or dropped it
,
Oh my aunt Harriot would shriek at her favorite nephew losing his concentration during competition.


She might pull the roller pen and bust his cranium.

Honestly all of you guys better stick to playing at the YMCA under strict supervision and sing cum ba yah both fefore and after saying the pledge of allegiance because you would not last in any pool room in the world
  
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10-09-2019, 05:06 AM

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this thread is a farce

the whole thing is so unbelievable

someone is trying to make the rest of us think he is a sucker

whether it is the poster
the guy he kinda trust,or later describes as a friend
or
the mysterious stranger who will play anybody in the world a game for $10,000


I think I recognize that unusual aroma emanating from the kitchen as
some form of rodent

only on AZ would a thread like this be discussed


with any degree of seriousness


Let's think it over,now we are going to play for $19,000 but not shpow any money because we
are afrayd of getting heisted even though we will be taking a small army for protection,but the real fear is that some guy playing for $10,000 might not have the same affinity to the Marquis de Queensburu rules

Oh heaven forbid,rumor is this would be rogue might have misplaced the cube of chalk or dropped it
,
Oh my aunt Harriot would shriek at her favorite nephew losing his concentration during competition.


She might pull the roller pen and bust his cranium.

Honestly all of you guys better stick to playing at the YMCA under strict supervision and sing cum ba yah both fefore and after saying the pledge of allegiance because you would not last in any pool room in the world
Yep, none of us have lasted for 10, 20, 30 years. You are God!
  
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10-09-2019, 05:35 AM

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Gonna try to keep this short. A nice guy I kinda trust who is an okay player but not a strong player ( Iím guessing heís never ran a 3 pack in his life but Iíve seen him run 15 balls in rotation on a 9í. Anyway he calls me and tells me about a guy looking for action. This unknown guy will play last pocket 8ball on a barbox but for at least 5k. He said thereís no limit how much heíll play for. Somehow thereís no video of this guy shooting anywhere online and thereís no last name. So I ask this pal about that guy and he says heís unbelievable. Really really strong player. Whatever that means. ( he barey speaks English so couldnt ask specifics ). So my question if I talk him into some cheap sets is there a way Iíll figure out his speed? Say I appear out of nowhere and ask for a 10 dollar game or 50 dollar race to 3. How much is it gonna cost to figure out his speed? I dont want to lose 500 to win 5000. Nobody I know have heard of this guy and nobody wants to drive for 2 hours to check him out. Iím thinking about playing him or backing a stronger friend of mine ( 725 fargo ). Whatís the best way to do this? A few buds told me go play him for 50 bucks and come back and tell me about it or shoot it on hidden video. The one thing I can tell for sure is that itís real and heís not a gang banger but an actual pool player looking for action.
Very interesting story. After reading this entire thread I can only say one thing to you - NEVER play another man's game! The reference on here to what Mika said is correct. There is no way this can end good for you!

I've been propositioned a few times to make a big score and it never quite worked out for me. One time I was lucky to get out with the money I had in my pocket. I had to use the restroom ploy to make my escape.

I always did a lot better finding my own games. Good luck to you in your quest for the pot of gold.


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10-09-2019, 06:57 AM

who is this mustard guy

this post is 100% baloney


think about it

If my friend Jackpot came over and said
"there is a guy at the pool room that wants to play me for $5000
I have the nuts and I need your $5000'

What do you think i would say

a
You think we could start at $10 to clock his speed
b
Heres the money,bring me my half when it's over

And if Jack were to say
"i am afraid he might drop some chalk on the table and shark me

what do you think i would say

a
oh,yes that would change everything,this cpould get seious
or
B

You had me going,I thought you were serious

Now ,if it went like this
and he said

I am afraid to post or flash the cash,I heard he had some unsavory friends"

What do you think I would say

a

in that case don't show him the money,make him post but have him take your word for it"

or B

"So what's new?'
But if you feel uncomfortable do you want me to go with you?"


now if you responded with anything but B,please get some money and lets meet for
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10-09-2019, 07:07 AM

What if some guy said 'send me $1282 and I'll sand you a cue'.

A- STFU!
B: love to.
  
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What if some guy said 'send me $1282 and I'll sand you a cue'.

A- STFU!
B: love to.
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10-09-2019, 08:28 AM

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who is this mustard guy

this post is 100% baloney


think about it

If my friend Jackpot came over and said
"there is a guy at the pool room that wants to play me for $5000
I have the nuts and I need your $5000'

What do you think i would say

a
You think we could start at $10 to clock his speed
b
Heres the money,bring me my half when it's over

And if Jack were to say
"i am afraid he might drop some chalk on the table and shark me

what do you think i would say

a
oh,yes that would change everything,this cpould get seious
or
B

You had me going,I thought you were serious

Now ,if it went like this
and he said

I am afraid to post or flash the cash,I heard he had some unsavory friends"

What do you think I would say

a

in that case don't show him the money,make him post but have him take your word for it"

or B

"So what's new?'
But if you feel uncomfortable do you want me to go with you?"


now if you responded with anything but B,please get some money and lets meet for
some pool,bring $5000 or more
Lol. Though the story didnít really go like that.

Itís more like you donít know jackpot so well but kinda trust him and he doesnít speaka much of your language, but he conveys to you that he knows a guy who wants to play for 5K and (Iím assuming here) heís telling you that you have a chance of winning against this guy.

A: play
B: donít play
C: get a big head and think you can take on jazzyjeff87 and invite him to your domicile to mix it up 1p style.
  
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