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Scott Frost vs Ronnie Allen in his prime - 01-27-2015, 01:23 PM

Just curious who you think would have the edge... race to 8 for a HUGE stack


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01-27-2015, 01:30 PM

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Just curious who you think would have the edge... race to 8 for a HUGE stack
The only opinion that really matters might be someone who has played them both, not many of those guys around. Not a good deal of video around of Ronnie to see him in his prime, the match with him and Danny D was on what looked like buckets and the play was not at the top level we see now. 10 years ago Frost gave Ronnie something like 10-5 and shot him full of holes. Certainly a dream match and I am sure the firepower and shots would be amazing but we will never know who was best in their primes.


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01-27-2015, 01:35 PM

I think Billy Incardona could answer this .....


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01-27-2015, 01:39 PM

I think I remember on one of the TAR podcasts Jay Helfert said he doesn't think the newer one pocket players would have had any chance against the old dogs in their prime. I don't know in specific to whom he was referring though.


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01-27-2015, 04:51 PM

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Just curious who you think would have the edge... race to 8 for a HUGE stack
I watched Ronnie Allen and bet on him all the way from the days at Welker Cochran's in S.F. to that brutal pit in Johnston City and then years after.
I think this Scott Frost guy would've beat Ronnie like a drum if they could've matched up back then.
I think Frost would've crucified Deliberto as well.
(assuming there wasn't any business going on)
I just never understood how Frost ended up being headquartered in some 2-bit desert town like Tempe Arizona????
Arizona? Hell, all they got out there is dirt, rattlesnakes, miserable weather, and broken air conditioners
  
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Cool RONNIE Allen - 01-27-2015, 05:13 PM

Wow i just cant think of anybody that ran more 8 n9 outs than Ronnie.When Scott left Des Moines he was not the best there.In his prime Scotts teacher was closer to Ronnie.#2 Efren,#1 Ronnie.
  
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01-27-2015, 05:27 PM

IMO todays young top players would shoot the nuts off all the old players other than Ronnie and Efern. Also IMO todays top players from around the world would eat all of the top players alive from the 1940's to the 1980's. Johnnyt


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01-27-2015, 06:03 PM

your opinions mean less every time you speak...alex beat frost for cash..alex is now a snooker player
  
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01-27-2015, 06:12 PM

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your opinions mean less every time you speak...alex beat frost for cash..alex is now a snooker player
Alex beat Scott one time gambling but Scott beat him before that a few times, Scott had not been playing and took Alex for granted. Scott has beaten Efren the last 6 plays gambling. It is mind blowing that someone forms an opinion from just one match. Scott put it out there to play anyone at Derby for cash even one pocket and no one has stepped up yet, not even Alex.

If people think Alex is better then put him in the box there or even Shane for that matter. I personally think that Alex or Shane are the only ones who can play him an ahead set for serious coin, it will be great to see if it happens. My money will be on Scott but I know he is not even close to stealing.


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01-27-2015, 09:44 PM

Anybody alive out there who has played them both?


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01-28-2015, 07:42 AM

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Scott Frost would have the edge. Today's players play on equipment that is far more difficult than the equipment of the past.

The only people that are saying the old timers would whoop today's players, are the same old farts that played back then. Anytime I hear that Ronnie Allen and Efren Reyes played better in their prime, I just laugh. I think Efren plays better now than he did before; He just has tougher competition now.


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I believe he could.


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01-28-2015, 11:09 AM

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Scott Frost would have the edge. Today's players play on equipment that is far more difficult than the equipment of the past.

The only people that are saying the old timers would whoop today's players, are the same old farts that played back then. Anytime I hear that Ronnie Allen and Efren Reyes played better in their prime, I just laugh. I think Efren plays better now than he did before; He just has tougher competition now.
How is today's equipment more difficult? I agree on your point about Efren but believe it is because the equipment is better than years ago.
  
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