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01-20-2017, 09:41 PM

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01-20-2017, 09:43 PM

First, I don't feel that one can compare the MC to the Olympics.

And second, could you imagine Red Auerbach dismantling the Lakers in the 1960's and then coaching them in the 1970's after he retired from Boston??

Makes no sense to me


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I'm obviously in the minority, but I think he is a great choice. It is not an unusual sight to see a foreign coach in the Olympics. So why not the Mosconi?

I would only be a little surprised if Team USA this year included European-born players who now reside in the USA. Once again, if it's done in the Olympics then why not the Mosconi Cup?
  
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01-20-2017, 09:48 PM

Exactly tough to compare pool to soccer or football. I can't pass the cue ball to Skyker or Shane😂... Pool even at Mosconi Cup is still a single person sport. Even in the doubles where it is a team your still shooting the shot by yourself obviously your partner may prefer to shoot a shot but your still out their by yourself. Jut my opinion, I think Mark caught to much heat for us losing not his fault. No imagine if this happens USA wins 2017 MC Johan and Matchroom are going to look like geniuses.
  
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01-20-2017, 10:03 PM

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I'm obviously in the minority, but I think he is a great choice. It is not an unusual sight to see a foreign coach in the Olympics. So why not the Mosconi?

I would only be a little surprised if Team USA this year included European-born players who now reside in the USA. Once again, if it's done in the Olympics then why not the Mosconi Cup?
I think there is a big difference between a country deciding for itself to employ a foreign coach for their national team vs. an organizing body assigning the foreign coach.

Could you imagine the reaction if the IOC and FIBA began assigning US basketball coaches to the rest of the world because they haven't been very competitive lately?

But this highlights the fact that the MC is not a real competition contested by two independent sides, it is an exhibition created, financed, and controlled by Matchroom. And as such, it is their party.
  
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01-20-2017, 10:14 PM

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You'll go broke giving up 5-6 points on the wire even if we don't put our best 5.
And just who is your best 5 ?


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01-20-2017, 10:28 PM

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I think there is a big difference between a country deciding for itself to employ a foreign coach for their national team vs. an organizing body assigning the foreign coach.

Could you imagine the reaction if the IOC and FIBA began assigning US basketball coaches to the rest of the world because they haven't been very competitive lately?

But this highlights the fact that the MC is not a real competition contested by two independent sides, it is an exhibition created, financed, and controlled by Matchroom. And as such, it is their party.
Great point and it leads me even more to believe that not all of the Team USA players this year will be American-born. Ruijsink is just the beginning, in my opinion.
  
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01-20-2017, 10:30 PM

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No the USA needs professional pool players, of which they only have 1.

Might as well let Thorsten, Appleton, Mika, and Shaw play for team USA, add SVB in to pretend it is "Team USA".

Quite a joke.

I wonder if Matchroom ever glances at this forum, or if they realize the views in here represent a fairly significant percentage of people that support their content?

#CompleteFail #TeamEurope1VsTeamEurope2 #OfficialEndOfTeamUSA
Well that's enough from the Canuck's opinion's if anyone has one that's you and he just decided to quit

In any head to head we would beat you guys to a drum and throw away the sticks period

You have zero dog in the fight so stay on the porch where you belong

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01-20-2017, 10:31 PM

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Not one American can do it? Pshh 😂😂 so stupid..

I think Johan is a nice guy and qualified to be the coach but to say there isn't 1 American that would be a good coach shows how much you know. We only have 1 real pro?😂😂😂😂
I think the only people out there saying Johan is the only one who seems capable to "maybe" coach the USA is Matchroom.

The reason people on this thread are commenting on this idiocy is because Matchroom is getting a non-American to coach team America, it is freaking ridiculous Justin.
  
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Well that's enough from the Canuck's opinion's if anyone has one that's you and he just decided to quit

In any head to head we would beat you guys to a drum and throw away the sticks period

You have zero dog in the fight so stay on the porch where you belong

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I have about as much in this as you do with your team America being coached by a Euro now~
  
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01-20-2017, 10:48 PM

The Value of a Coach. ~ Bert Kinister

When my friend Ralf Souquet says, “Best coach ever,” I sit up and take notice.

He was talking about someone whom I knew well, but had not connected with in several years—Johan Ruijsink, the non-playing captain and coach of Europe’s Mosconi Cup team. What is there about a man who can bring together players from four different countries, with four different languages to form a cohesive battle unit that laid waste to the best of American players?

I first met Johan in 2002 in Cardiff, Wales at the World Tournament. We were introduced by Niels Feijen, a student I had been working with since he was a teenager and Mosconi Cup MVP. We struck up an immediate friendship and I agreed to return to The Netherlands with him to teach in his poolroom. I was with the great Arubian champion Ditto Acosta. The three of us set out from Cardiff to Northern England in Johan’s old Volvo.

Not always driving on the correct side of the street, our very merry band made it to an old hotel in the north of England where we spent the night in very cramped uncomfortable conditions made worse by Ditto’s, AKA: El Snorizo, unbelievable snoring. Johan and I never got any sleep, none. In the morning we drove onto the giant catamaran that would ferry us and our car—along with 500 others—to The Netherlands later that day. With over one million horsepower the trip did not even take three hours, clearing Customs was another story.

Finally on the road to Johan’s home, night club and pool room in The Hague, we coasted in under cover of darkness with no brakes, no gas, no sleep and there they were waiting—I do not know for how long—eight to 12 young men acting like a drill team, waiting to learn pool.

I worked with them as long as I could before I had to sleep. In the morning I woke to Johan’s beautiful wife’s face getting me up for breakfast.

That is when I began to understand how great coaches create themselves.

While Johan was out getting an assortment of cheeses for breakfast, his wife, an Olympic swimmer, related that Johan was ex-Dutch Special Forces, an expert in discipline and teamwork. This explained all of the eager teenagers waiting for us in the middle of the night, and Johan’s tireless work ethic.

Johan must have been born with the joy that he brought to the game.

After spending several days teaching with Johan and his friends, I went on to fulfill teaching engagements all over Europe. Johan went on to work tirelessly, and for very little financial reward, bringing his discipline, work ethic and, did I mention, joy to his students from the youngest players in the Netherlands and Europe to the Champions of today.

For Johan it has been a 12 year road to success, so when Ralf Souquet says, “Johan Ruijsink is the best coach in the world,” I believe him.


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I'm all for great coaching and I think any professional player that works with Johan will emerge better than ever. This has a lot of upside for our players.
If a great American instructor, bert kinister, believes Johan is the best coach in the world, then he's perfect for American pool at this time.
  
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01-20-2017, 11:13 PM

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[B]He was talking about someone whom I knew well, but had not connected with in several years—Johan Ruijsink, the non-playing captain and coach of Europe’s Mosconi Cup team. What is there about a man who can bring together players from four different countries, with four different languages to form a cohesive battle unit that laid waste to the best of American players?
... but in his two years as coach, Marcus Chamat has been even more successful than Johann, winning by a combined score of 22-10. Niels of Netherlands/Denmark, Darren and Mark from England, Jayson from Scotland, and Albin from Austria, also represented four different countries.

Coaching a team that has far superior talent is a challenge but a far less challenge than coaching a heavy underdog, which Team USA is year after year. To be fair, Marcus has not had teams as strong as some of Johann's. For example, the 2013 Team Europe had four World 9-ball champions on it and its fifth member had collected a bronze in the World 9-ball championships.

Ralf Souquet was coached by Johann but never by Marcus.

The evidence suggests that anyone who coaches Team Europe will look like a genius right now. It's chiefly about the players.
  
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No matter how many Pros. This Con,, tops them all. - 01-21-2017, 12:19 AM

The American community would like to take a knee and gracefully thank the European community. We want to thank you for loaning one of your fine European champions to assist us in our cause. We know now that without the help of the European community, we would not stand a chance of ever winning the Mosconi Cup ever again. It is through the kindness of the European community that will push us forward.

So when the day comes that the American Mosconi Cup team can once again hold the cup high above their heads. We will know that we could not have done it without the help of Europe.


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01-21-2017, 12:23 AM

And if the USA wins 2017. The only thing that will be said is that " The only reason for the win... is due to the leadership of Matchroom and the Support of a European champion as a Captain.... USA could not do it by themselves"

Is this what we want?


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01-21-2017, 01:24 AM

Quit crying and join the real world. Where someone was born makes no difference to anything. Although i stayed silent, i was flabbergasted at some of the sales pitches that were being made on here.

Johan's pedigree is behind doubt. Now the only question is, will he do the right thing and ditch SVB?
  
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The Value of a Coach. ~ Bert Kinister

When my friend Ralf Souquet says, “Best coach ever,” I sit up and take notice.

He was talking about someone whom I knew well, but had not connected with in several years—Johan Ruijsink, the non-playing captain and coach of Europe’s Mosconi Cup team. What is there about a man who can bring together players from four different countries, with four different languages to form a cohesive battle unit that laid waste to the best of American players?

I first met Johan in 2002 in Cardiff, Wales at the World Tournament. We were introduced by Niels Feijen, a student I had been working with since he was a teenager and Mosconi Cup MVP. We struck up an immediate friendship and I agreed to return to The Netherlands with him to teach in his poolroom. I was with the great Arubian champion Ditto Acosta. The three of us set out from Cardiff to Northern England in Johan’s old Volvo.

Not always driving on the correct side of the street, our very merry band made it to an old hotel in the north of England where we spent the night in very cramped uncomfortable conditions made worse by Ditto’s, AKA: El Snorizo, unbelievable snoring. Johan and I never got any sleep, none. In the morning we drove onto the giant catamaran that would ferry us and our car—along with 500 others—to The Netherlands later that day. With over one million horsepower the trip did not even take three hours, clearing Customs was another story.

Finally on the road to Johan’s home, night club and pool room in The Hague, we coasted in under cover of darkness with no brakes, no gas, no sleep and there they were waiting—I do not know for how long—eight to 12 young men acting like a drill team, waiting to learn pool.

I worked with them as long as I could before I had to sleep. In the morning I woke to Johan’s beautiful wife’s face getting me up for breakfast.

That is when I began to understand how great coaches create themselves.

While Johan was out getting an assortment of cheeses for breakfast, his wife, an Olympic swimmer, related that Johan was ex-Dutch Special Forces, an expert in discipline and teamwork. This explained all of the eager teenagers waiting for us in the middle of the night, and Johan’s tireless work ethic.

Johan must have been born with the joy that he brought to the game.

After spending several days teaching with Johan and his friends, I went on to fulfill teaching engagements all over Europe. Johan went on to work tirelessly, and for very little financial reward, bringing his discipline, work ethic and, did I mention, joy to his students from the youngest players in the Netherlands and Europe to the Champions of today.

For Johan it has been a 12 year road to success, so when Ralf Souquet says, “Johan Ruijsink is the best coach in the world,” I believe him.


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I'm all for great coaching and I think any professional player that works with Johan will emerge better than ever. This has a lot of upside for our players.
If a great American instructor, bert kinister, believes Johan is the best coach in the world, then he's perfect for American pool at this time.
Thank you for this post!

Both Johan and his wife Christel, are salt of the earth people, both personally and professionally, their character and standards are beyond reproach.

I would stand with whoever is picked for Captain for Team USA,
but that it has been placed in Johan's hands, European or not, is a good thing/

For the players, this is a good thing.
They will glean something new perhaps.
And from a marketing perspective, it's a ratings bonanza!

Y'all can lose your minds if you want to, but right now, we should all be happy American players are being invested in in both knowledge and time and
be humble and gracious for the opportunity given to us.


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