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Uv - 03-23-2018, 06:41 AM

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So you've done this test with the product being discussed here?

Just as I figured............

Solarez is your baby. Nobody here can compare. We should all just quit building cues and look for something else to do. Why do I torture myself not learning the Kim way of solarez?
Oh ...because I have and it's no good.
Say what you want but for you to try and convince us that you stand 2 feet away from using the solarez product and can't smell it tells me either your sinuses are shot or you're just flat out lying.
Which is it?
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03-23-2018, 08:18 PM

As a Solarez user, I find it unfair that CA users are bashing this stuff as barely above aerosol finish. One would think with all the bashing that CA has taken as a finish over the years, they would fully understand that every finish has a learning curve and doesn't come out great right away and if you haven't taken the time to learn it/invest in it, then you shouldn't bash it. I have used 3-4 quarts of solarez so far and a lot was wasted learning some hard lessons and I am sure the CA users have done the same too. IMO, the finish is only as good as the effort put in by the finisher to learn how to use it for their purpose and do the proper prep for it. I have been told by quite a few players/cue buyers that have owned even some of the makers in this thread, that my finish was on par, and in a few cases looked better then those. Not bragging, just repeating what I was told.
How about stopping the bashing in this thread so it can get back to the finish that it's actually about.
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03-24-2018, 07:30 AM

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As a Solarez user, I find it unfair that CA users are bashing this stuff as barely above aerosol finish. One would think with all the bashing that CA has taken as a finish over the years, they would fully understand that every finish has a learning curve and doesn't come out great right away and if you haven't taken the time to learn it/invest in it, then you shouldn't bash it. I have used 3-4 quarts of solarez so far and a lot was wasted learning some hard lessons and I am sure the CA users have done the same too. IMO, the finish is only as good as the effort put in by the finisher to learn how to use it for their purpose and do the proper prep for it. I have been told by quite a few players/cue buyers that have owned even some of the makers in this thread, that my finish was on par, and in a few cases looked better then those. Not bragging, just repeating what I was told.
How about stopping the bashing in this thread so it can get back to the finish that it's actually about.
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You're barking up the wrong tree. Take your cause up with the self appointed Solarez company spokesman, not me. We cannot have a finish debate or conversation on this site without that troll chiming in to slap everybody with the Solarez brush. My response was an actual opinion based on experience, not a bash on the product, and was meant to push the troll back under his rock. He chimed in this time to pretty much call anybody who doesn't use Solarez an idiot, and that they shouldn't be making cues. That doesn't exactly look good on the brand. If you feel you must defend your finish, defend it against the person who's actually damaging its legitimacy.


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03-24-2018, 09:07 PM

I have never used Solarez. Iíve used an auto clear only. But to say if someone canít use it they should have someone else finish their cues is an idiotic statement if Iíve ever heard one.

It seems some cannot understand that there are different ways to achieve the same goal. You play your game and Iíll play mine.

I read this forum regularly but really donít post a lot. There are so many self appointed experts here I rarely have much to add.
  
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03-24-2018, 09:53 PM

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I have never used Solarez. Iíve used an auto clear only. But to say if someone canít use it they should have someone else finish their cues is an idiotic statement if Iíve ever heard one.

It seems some cannot understand that there are different ways to achieve the same goal. You play your game and Iíll play mine.

I read this forum regularly but really donít post a lot. There are so many self appointed experts here I rarely have much to add.
You're not missing anything.
Well, outside of that stink it has right when you open the can.
Funny thing is, some peep was touting that Solarez to me and I told him to have fun with it b/c I ain't ever going to use it. He too made it sound like it was a gift from above so he can avoid spraying.

Now, I just use a 2:1 auto clear. I get them by the pint only. They are gone before the hardener goes bad. I use an Iwata gun and won't have any other gun.
  
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03-25-2018, 05:45 AM

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Well, outside of that stink it has right when you open the can.
Funny thing is, some peep was touting that Solarez to me and I told him to have fun with it b/c I ain't ever going to use it. He too made it sound like it was a gift from above so he can avoid spraying.

Now, I just use a 2:1 auto clear. I get them by the pint only. They are gone before the hardener goes bad. I use an Iwata gun and won't have any other gun.
I'm pretty sure that all of the finishes have merits. To each their own. I stayed with CA because Eric Crisp was nice enough to reach out when I was having trouble and invite me to his shop to show me how he does it.

I ordered a test kit since I have the equipment to spray and I'll see how this stuff works. Even after I use it, I'm not going to judge it without giving myself fair time and experience to ensure that it's being applied correctly.

I just don't see how it's so hard for people to just say "thank you for the information on the new product / technique / etc.," and move on. If it's not the way you do it, then do it your way and be happy with your results. Taking the time to bash a technique or product that you've never taken the time to learn is like saying piano players are all godless heathens simply because you failed at learning to play piano. Ignorance, especially coupled with arrogance, are strange and dangerous bedfellows.



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I'm pretty sure that all of the finishes have merits. To each their own. I stayed with CA because Eric Crisp was nice enough to reach out when I was having trouble and invite me to his shop to show me how he does it.

I ordered a test kit since I have the equipment to spray and I'll see how this stuff works. Even after I use it, I'm not going to judge it without giving myself fair time and experience to ensure that it's being applied correctly.

I just don't see how it's so hard for people to just say "thank you for the information on the new product / technique / etc.," and move on. If it's not the way you do it, then do it your way and be happy with your results. Taking the time to bash a technique or product that you've never taken the time to learn is like saying piano players are all godless heathens simply because you failed at learning to play piano. Ignorance, especially coupled with arrogance, are strange and dangerous bedfellows.
Is spreading some on wood, smelling it everywhere in the building for hours and saying no thank you giving a product a fair shake?

If you're smelling it it's killing you.

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Is spreading some on wood, smelling it everywhere in the building for hours and saying no thank you giving a product a fair shake?

If you're smelling it it's killing you.

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I would say yes LOL. All of the makers I've met (myself included,) have decent ventilation systems. Granted I'm fairly new at full blown building vs. higher end repairs compared to most of the bigger contributes here. So yeah...if you can smell it, I would say you're probably correct in stating it's not healthy.

My point was that you'll never hear me saying "no no no..that's not how you do that" or "this way / product is better than this one" unless I've vetted it for myself and feel confident that I'm using correct techniques. If I did, no one would EVER share knowledge with me again and I would be missing out on some great ways to do things.



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03-25-2018, 09:18 AM

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I just don't see how it's so hard for people to just say "thank you for the information on the new product / technique / etc.,".
Thank you. I like threads like this.

As for finish and I don't care what kind. I want to know what it's like in 6 months.


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03-25-2018, 10:12 AM

I never said that Brite-Tone was the best product around. I just started a thread about this new product that seemed an awesome alternative, I have finished now about 5 cues and I am very happy with it with the outcome, that's why I shared it...

Just follow these rules:
- Use an HVLP gun with a 0.8mm or 1.0mm needle
- Spray thin coats and let the cue rotate slowly for 5/10 minutes before hanging it
- Do not attempt to spray less than 2 hours apart additional coats
- Be patient and the results will make you happy!


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03-25-2018, 10:22 AM

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I never said that Brite-Tone was the best product around. I just started a thread about this new product that seemed an awesome alternative, I have finished now about 5 cues and I am very happy with it with the outcome, that's why I shared it...

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- Use an HVLP gun with a 0.8mm or 1.0mm needle
- Spray thin coats and let the cue rotate slowly for 5/10 minutes before hanging it
- Do not attempt to spray less than 2 hours apart additional coats
- Be patient and the results will make you happy!
I'm personally glad you did. It's another alternative and it gives those of us who haven't been doing this for long enough to have tried a zillion ways to do things a chance to learn and grow. Maybe I will like it better than CA and maybe I won't. But I will learn something in the process guaranteed.



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I'm pretty sure that all of the finishes have merits. To each their own. I stayed with CA because Eric Crisp was nice enough to reach out when I was having trouble and invite me to his shop to show me how he does it.

I ordered a test kit since I have the equipment to spray and I'll see how this stuff works. Even after I use it, I'm not going to judge it without giving myself fair time and experience to ensure that it's being applied correctly.

I just don't see how it's so hard for people to just say "thank you for the information on the new product / technique / etc.," and move on. If it's not the way you do it, then do it your way and be happy with your results. Taking the time to bash a technique or product that you've never taken the time to learn is like saying piano players are all godless heathens simply because you failed at learning to play piano. Ignorance, especially coupled with arrogance, are strange and dangerous bedfellows.
You must have missed the part where someone emphatically said, if you can't put on Solarez finish, you should hire someone else to do your finish.
Well, I did try solarez and it stunk to the high heavens.
And I'm supposed to apply that thing manually?
Well, since we can't discount anything without trying it, I suggest you try it too.
After all , it's easier to apply than CA. Supposed to be really good since it goes on surfboards and is a UV finish.
  
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I've seen some UV cues that looked great and some that looked like crap. Everything has a learning curve to it. Poor bonding for starters. Milky appearance. Staining issues.


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