Tip from a bankpool player...
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An important consideration is what occurs at the moment of impact.
For example: CB OB may be 5/6 diamonds apart. OB NEAR END RAIL
So. a very low tip placement can be used for executing this shot if holding up the OB is in order.
The draw can turn into slide. It is the sliding CB that creates the most grab on the OB. What is key is that there was not a backward spinning CB at impact but the draw element was key in execution.
Stan Shuffett
For example: CB OB may be 5/6 diamonds apart. OB NEAR END RAIL
So. a very low tip placement can be used for executing this shot if holding up the OB is in order.
The draw can turn into slide. It is the sliding CB that creates the most grab on the OB. What is key is that there was not a backward spinning CB at impact but the draw element was key in execution.
Stan Shuffett
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At first I thought John was being facetious, because what he wrote in the first post is such common knowledge. Well at least I thought it was
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Why do we have to wait for John Barton?
Thanks for the tips John. A Jack and Coke on me next time I see you. :smile:
These are the kinds of things that make the game so great.
John, the other post you say in essence you don't need to hit firm to shorten the angle. I take that you mean its not the only way. Correct me if I'm wrong.
As far as origins of the "myth" that low cuing shortens the OB angle. My guess it comes from most of our early experiences of no stroke and trying to get draw. I'll speak for myself but think its true for most, in the early stages. We found or thought we found, we needed a firm hit on the CB to get it to draw. Take that info to a bank game and the OB shortened with draw/firm hit. What was really happening is the angle shortened because it was hit 100mph with our draw stroke.
John, the other post you say in essence you don't need to hit firm to shorten the angle. I take that you mean its not the only way. Correct me if I'm wrong.
As far as origins of the "myth" that low cuing shortens the OB angle. My guess it comes from most of our early experiences of no stroke and trying to get draw. I'll speak for myself but think its true for most, in the early stages. We found or thought we found, we needed a firm hit on the CB to get it to draw. Take that info to a bank game and the OB shortened with draw/firm hit. What was really happening is the angle shortened because it was hit 100mph with our draw stroke.
Yes,you can shorten bank shots while shooting easy.You do not have to shoot hard to hold or shorten a bank shot. Thanks, John B.
Or just buy his DVD.
One way to support people who go out of their way to help the rest of us.
Thank you very much:smile: John B.
Thank you for sharing more great info John.
One thing I have noticed is when I use outside it seems like my banks go in effortlessly, maybe I hit them too thick, I am not sure, but the outside seems to also send the Q ball into a pocket many times too. Here is some food for thought. On a crossover bank does outside english become inside english and inside become outside????:grin::grin:
One thing I have noticed is when I use outside it seems like my banks go in effortlessly, maybe I hit them too thick, I am not sure, but the outside seems to also send the Q ball into a pocket many times too. Here is some food for thought. On a crossover bank does outside english become inside english and inside become outside????
:grin::grin:
Best advice thus far. Tin-cup handouts are good, but there's nothing like being on a payroll (i.e. having the entire DVD's worth of info).
-Sean
Thank you for sharing more great info John.
One thing I have noticed is when I use outside it seems like my banks go in effortlessly, maybe I hit them too thick, I am not sure, but the outside seems to also send the Q ball into a pocket many times too. Here is some food for thought. On a crossover bank does outside english become inside english and inside become outside????
Yes,good work. John B.
Ok,
I just set up a shot that went longer with high on the CB than it did with draw. I'll try to get a video of it later today and post it. Note, I was in full agreement with Brumback before, now I'm not so sure after this shot. Will post video later, so you guys can see and we can discuss what is going on. Shot was with OB 1 ball away from the rail, and I tried to use the same firm speed on both the draw and follow shot.
I just set up a shot that went longer with high on the CB than it did with draw. I'll try to get a video of it later today and post it. Note, I was in full agreement with Brumback before, now I'm not so sure after this shot. Will post video later, so you guys can see and we can discuss what is going on. Shot was with OB 1 ball away from the rail, and I tried to use the same firm speed on both the draw and follow shot.
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low will make a bank shot take a whole lot more english, John is correct in his post for sure. If you won't to throw a lot of english on a bank shot cue it low. There are some that will argue that i am wrong, but i am convinced i am right with over 50 years experience banking balls.