Competitive drive

daveb

AzB Silver Member
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How much of competitive drive is based on ego, pent-up anger, and frustration? Is a peaceful, balanced, life detrimental to an intense competitive spirit?
 

cubc

AzB Silver Member
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Interesting question..

Personally my competitive drive is solely based on challenge, and that's why I'm competitive. If anything easy I end up quitting. Pool has so many great players and the game has so many possibilities it's very challenging.

I dont think it's ego. Most players with a big ego I've found arent as good as the humble players. Frustration and and anger seems to make people play worse.

my 2cp
 

storke

One Pocket Player
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Depends

This is a good question, but not a easy one to answer. Alot of it depends on the player. Different things motivate different people. Some it's the drive to be the best. When it comes to ego it is better described as competitive spirit. Take Efren for example: he is quiet and usually smiling. But underneath it all there is a steel resolve to beat his opponents. I believe without it you cannot compete at the top level in any sport.
 

CaptainJR

Shiver me timbers.
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daveb said:
How much of competitive drive is based on ego, pent-up anger, and frustration? Is a peaceful, balanced, life detrimental to an intense competitive spirit?

Very interesting. I've known for a long time that one big detriment to me really knuckling down and giving 100 percent on every shot is that I won't play for enough money to make it an issue if I lose. When ask if I want to play for a little higher stakes than I'm use to I keep saying, "If I played for that much and lose, I'll be sleeping on the couch for months". I don't know why that means anything though. I've been married for 18 years. Nothing happens in bed anyway! HEHE

I haven't given much thought to what you are saying. Easiest way for me to describe my life for the past decade or so is that I keep wondering when the wheels are going to fall off. Does this comfort zone effect my competitive drive? Hmmmmm, My guess is yes in a for fun playing situation. I don't think it effects my league play situation. In league I have a different family, my teammates, and things are never good enough there to let myself feel so comfortable that I don't give it 100 percent. As a matter of fact I wish I could play tournaments as hard as I play league.

I'll think more on it and look forward to hear what others have to say about this. Good question and thread.
 

bsmutz

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Very interesting question. I think it may have a lot to do with the individual. Different people are motivated in different ways. There is a lot to be said for being able to focus intently on the task at hand and that has a lot to do with how you are able to fade the distractions, mental and physical. I think both of those types of distractions can be mitigated by being relaxed and centered. I shoot my best when I am relaxed, but there also has to be a will to win. I find I will sometimes back off on a player when I get a lead or feel I'm getting too many lucky rolls. It's not really a conscious decision that I make but more of a further relaxation brought on by less desire to focus as much on winning. When playing someone that I really want to beat, I will keep my focus up at a very intense level until the match is over.

Last night while practicing by myself, I fell into a place I've never really been before (for very long, anyway) where I felt so in tune with the game that everything became very easy. In this instance, there was no real drive to win or beat someone, just a feeling of extreme confidence and total relaxation. There's also a strong feeling of enjoyment.

I have played very well when I've been angry before, but I don't think that's sustainable over time. Unless you're wound up like a top, it's hard to be angry at every opponent you meet as well as sustain the anger over the length of a match or tournament. I think eventually you would lose whatever advantage it gave you due to the distraction. Ego is a good motivator, too. You don't have to be outwardly egotistical to use your ego to motivate. Ego is what got me back into this game so heavily. I got beat by a couple of people that I knew if I was playing as well as I used to, would have no chance. It only took a couple of months of practice to get to that level. I'm way past that now and have other motives for continuing. We all feel good when we play well and the crowd/team is cheering and giving us atta boys. That's just ego stroking.

I feel that cool, calm, confident, relaxed, and focused are the main ingredients for a good player. A little desire will help sharpen the focus. All the rest are distractions to be avoided unless you can use one temporarily to bring you back from a state of apathy. Enjoying what you are doing just makes it that much easier.
 
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