Real Gambling vs Stream Money Grab

watchez

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What % of the bigger streamed matches over the last year do you think are for real money as opposed to money grabs for the streamers PPV money? I know back in the days of the original streamer TAR, Justin stated he would never stream a match that wasn’t real in any way shape or form.
 
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the players are getting show up money in most cases. and its their backers who put up any bets. and they are in on the payouts so you never know what real amount is actually bet on the match.
 
MattPoland

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Half of me sees it as plausible. Half of me doesn’t want to slander my idols with accusations fraudulent behavior without proof. And my third half would rather stay in the blissful Norman Rockwell ignorance for the sake of my entertainment.


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CreeDo

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What does it achieve exactly to make this sort of post, with zero evidence?

Downside = you shit on the integrity of players, streamers, and backers.

Upside = ???

Absolutely nothing, except you get to feel smart by acting like you know the real, behind the scenes stuff?


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ribdoner

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i welcome the thread

food for thought

degenerate gamblers might be giving $$$ away
 
u12armresl

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His post says what %, don't believe he says he knows anything about it, but I'm a betting man, and I'm pretty sure that on the DL he knows about a lot of what goes on.



CreeDo said:
What does it achieve exactly to make this sort of post, with zero evidence?

Downside = you shit on the integrity of players, streamers, and backers.

Upside = ???

Absolutely nothing, except you get to feel smart by acting like you know the real, behind the scenes stuff?


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spartan

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Shane Shaw match had at least 250 viewers (The chat had 250 online all the time but it limits to maximum 250 ) . My guess is less 1000 viewers (Doubt it is double digit viewers) Say average 500. $24 by 500 is $12K. Each player cut is 20% ? So about $2.4K guaranteed payout win or lose.
Add in cut from backers if they win.
MMP also selling merchandise like shirts of which player would take cut. Quite a lot of sponsors but not sure if players have cut of that.
 
logical

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The players either think it's a good deal and play or they don't. I'm all for someone growing the sport even if God forbid they make money doing it.

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logical

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watchez said:
The last two posters in this thread can’t even comprehend my original post.
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I disagree with the characterization of a money grab. You are right that I don't understand why you think that's what it may be.

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alstl

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I'd want to know how much money the stream generates before I gave an opinion.

I could see an internet version of the brother-in-law hustle if the cash was right.
 
Matt_24

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watchez said:
What % of the bigger streamed matches over the last year do you think are for real money as opposed to money grabs for the streamers PPV money? I know back in the days of the original streamer TAR, Justin stated he would never stream a match that wasn’t real in any way shape or form.
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TAR was the best. I miss it. Roy's basement is legit. As for the rest, no clue. Caveat Emptor.
 
MachineGunKelly

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So you think the promoter spent the money to fly in SVB, Shaw and Sky. Then paid JJ, Incardona, and CJ to do commentary for 3 days. Spent money on posters and advertising just to make money on pay per view and it not be an actual match? You think SVB and Shaw are down for "money grab streams"? I know SVB doesn't need the money and I would guess that Shaw doesn't either. Both of these guys can make money legit without being part of this hustle you speak of. How much could the promoter possibly pay them enough to do a "money grab" and the promoter still make a profit?
 
lou the greek

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I think those matches are nothing but exhibitions no real money is changing hands in the case of Shane vs Shaw both are managed by the same promoter
 
Black-Balled

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MachineGunKelly said:
So you think the promoter spent the money to fly in SVB, Shaw and Sky. Then paid JJ, Incardona, and CJ to do commentary for 3 days. Spent money on posters and advertising just to make money on pay per view and it not be an actual match? You think SVB and Shaw are down for "money grab streams"? I know SVB doesn't need the money and I would guess that Shaw doesn't either. Both of these guys can make money legit without being part of this hustle you speak of. How much could the promoter possibly pay them enough to do a "money grab" and the promoter still make a profit?
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Judging by the urgency displayed by the participants, yes.

Who knows why people decide to throw money at pool?

We all know how long it lasts though.
 
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