This may be a silly question- What does bar box mean ?

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The question may be silly , but I just got back in pool about a year ago and in our area there was no bars , just pool rooms . I see cues such as Meucci saying Bar Box . What does that mean , does a bar box take a special shaft or something. Is it a different style pool table . Thanks for the help just trying to get educated .
 

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The question may be silly , but I just got back in pool about a year ago and in our area there was no bars , just pool rooms . I see cues such as Meucci saying Bar Box . What does that mean , does a bar box take a special shaft or something. Is it a different style pool table . Thanks for the help just trying to get educated .

Skyler Woodward is what they call a bar box specialist, because he is one of the best, if not the best bar table 9 ball player in the country. So, after Meucci sponsored him to play with their cues, they came out with a line of cues called the Skyler Woodward "bar box" cues. I can't see any reason why those cues would not be just as good for playing on any other size tables though.

Anyways, they call a 7 foot pool table a bar box, because most bars have such limited space, that they can only fit a 7 foot pool table in their bar. So, I assume that is where the term "bar box" came from.
 

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Skyler Woodward is what they call a bar box specialist, because he is one of the best, if not the best bar table 9 ball player in the country. So, after Meucci sponsored him to play with their cues, they came out with a line of cues called the Skyler Woodward "bar box" cues. I can't see any reason why those cues would not be just as good for playing on any other size tables though.

Anyways, they call a 7 foot pool table a bar box, because most bars have such limited space, that they can only fit a 7 foot pool table in their bar. So, I assume that is where the term "bar box" came from.


Ok , that makes sense, I seen some Meucci cues with say 2 shafts and one said Bar Box and I did not understand what that meant . I do not do Bars , so not familiar with them, It seems most places tho do have 7 ft or 9 ft tables I have heard about , we seem the few who uses 8 ft tables. That is what the pool halls here always had anyway . Thanks
 

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In addition, the old Valley bar tables of the 60's and 70's were VERY boxy looking. The design not similar to today's bar tables like a Diamond. There was also a super small 3' x 6' table called a "cracker box." Heavy magnetic cueball (the dud) or oversize (big) cueballs were used at that time too. Lol.


Skyler Woodward is what they call a bar box specialist, because he is one of the best, if not the best bar table 9 ball player in the country. So, after Meucci sponsored him to play with their cues, they came out with a line of cues called the Skyler Woodward "bar box" cues. I can't see any reason why those cues would not be just as good for playing on any other size tables though.

Anyways, they call a 7 foot pool table a bar box, because most bars have such limited space, that they can only fit a 7 foot pool table in their bar. So, I assume that is where the term "bar box" came from.
 
Ok , that makes sense, I seen some Meucci cues with say 2 shafts and one said Bar Box and I did not understand what that meant . I do not do Bars , so not familiar with them, It seems most places tho do have 7 ft or 9 ft tables I have heard about , we seem the few who uses 8 ft tables. That is what the pool halls here always had anyway . Thanks

I thought it was really silly when I seen that they came out with a Bar Box line of cues.

Most pool halls in recent years have mostly, or at least 50% 7 foot bar tables.

I understand, in the old days, most pool halls probably had all regulation size 9 foot tables, but ever since the bar leagues got really popular, some pool halls may have switched out their 9 foot tables for 7 foot tables.
 
In addition, the old Valley bar tables of the 60's and 70's were VERY boxy looking. The design not similar to today's bar tables like a Diamond. There was also a super small 3' x 6' table called a "cracker box." Heavy magnetic cueball (the dud) or oversize (big) cueballs were used at that time too. Lol.

That is really interesting. I would love to see some pictures of some of those tables. I never seen a 3 by 6 table before.
 

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The question may be silly , but I just got back in pool about a year ago and in our area there was no bars , just pool rooms . I see cues such as Meucci saying Bar Box . What does that mean , does a bar box take a special shaft or something. Is it a different style pool table . Thanks for the help just trying to get educated .

My take on this subject.
‘Pool table’ and ‘snooker table’ were respectful terms...often the quality was amazing.

The term ‘bar box’ tended to be spoken with scorn....undersized table characterized by
cheap cloth, cheap balls, a cue ball that didn’t match, rails that could be taken off by
unscrewing three screw nails with a screw driver.

Calling a table a bar box was like calling a woman a ho.

Diamond sent that ‘ho’ to finishing school...you may now address one as ma’am...:smile:
 

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The question may be silly , but I just got back in pool about a year ago and in our area there was no bars , just pool rooms . I see cues such as Meucci saying Bar Box . What does that mean , does a bar box take a special shaft or something. Is it a different style pool table . Thanks for the help just trying to get educated .
7 foot coin tables that were the dominant tables in bars containing one or two tables for over half a century were either Valley or Dynamo. They both had and still have a very “boxy” look to them and were built like tanks, obviously made to withstand maximum abuse by the patrons at the expense of having an attractive looking table.
 
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No real frame to a barbox best I recall

The "box" part of a barbox is one piece, it doesn't come apart. It provides the major structural strength of the table I believe. They come in three by six, I guess 3.25 by definitely 6.5, and the most common 3.5x7. Valley now makes an eight foot table, seems like even a nine foot table. I know nothing about them.

They play a lot of english black ball on 3x6 and smaller tables. I don't remember what size balls they use. When two top players get on the table they seem to be playing a three dimensional game the cue ball stays in the air so much. I remember playing on one six foot barbox for a few months. The bar owner took so much heat they got rid of it and got a seven footer. I didn't care for the six footer and I don't think any of the gamblers did.

The seven foot Diamond isn't a barbox in any respect. Constructed like the nine foot Diamond with the same quality and same pockets, it is only smaller. While seven footers are often called barboxes I consider it incorrect when talking about the Diamond. With age catching up with me I like the seven foot Diamonds. Sometimes I get on them and it is like flashing back to 1970!

Some of us are probably wasting time giving serious answers to a silly question but it beats some other threads lately. Where is Travis Trotter when we need him?

Hu
 
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Geosnooker

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I thought it was really silly when I seen that they came out with a Bar Box line of cues.

Most pool halls in recent years have mostly, or at least 50% 7 foot bar tables.

I understand, in the old days, most pool halls probably had all regulation size 9 foot tables, but ever since the bar leagues got really popular, some pool halls may have switched out their 9 foot tables for 7 foot tables.

The vast majority of tables and pool halls are not seven feet. That’s might be in the United States. 90% of pool halls are in Asia, especially China, and l never saw anything less than 8 feet.

Also, at least 80% of the tables in my Canadian city are 9 foot. 7 foot tables are found in bars.
 

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The vast majority of tables and pool halls are not seven feet. That’s might be in the United States. 90% of pool halls are in Asia, especially China, and l never saw anything less than 8 feet.

Also, at least 80% of the tables in my Canadian city are 9 foot. 7 foot tables are found in bars.

Pretty much all 9' tables around my zone too.
 
The "box" part of a barbox is one piece, it doesn't come apart. It provides the major structural strength of the table I believe. They come in three by six, I guess 3.25 by definitely 6.5, and the most common 3.5x7. Valley now makes an eight foot table, seems like even a nine foot table. I know nothing about them.

They play a lot of english black ball on 3x6 and smaller tables. I don't remember what size balls they use. When two top players get on the table they seem to be playing a three dimensional game the cue ball stays in the air so much. I remember playing on one six foot barbox for a few months. The bar owner took so much heat they got rid of it and got a seven footer. I didn't care for the six footer and I don't think any of the gamblers did.

The seven foot Diamond isn't a barbox in any respect. Constructed like the nine foot Diamond with the same quality and same pockets, it is only smaller. While seven footers are often called barboxes I consider it incorrect when talking about the Diamond. With age catching up with me I like the seven foot Diamonds. Sometimes I get on them and it is like flashing back to 1970!

Some of us are probably wasting time giving serious answers to a silly question but it beats some other threads lately. Where is Travis Trotter when we need him?

Hu

My home pool hall, back in the 90's, had all 8 foot Valley tables. They were not coin op tables. They were built identical to every other 7 foot Valley table I ever seen, other then not being a coin op table. Really loved those tables.

I still consider the 7 foot Diamonds to be bar boxes, and I think that most other players think the same way. They are super nice, and very high quality, but they are still bar boxes.
 
The vast majority of tables and pool halls are not seven feet. That’s might be in the United States. 90% of pool halls are in Asia, especially China, and l never saw anything less than 8 feet.

Also, at least 80% of the tables in my Canadian city are 9 foot. 7 foot tables are found in bars.

Yeah, I was referring to US pool halls, because bar leagues are very popular here, and most pool halls here are in bars. The league players like to play league on 7 foot tables. The APA Nationals for example are on 7 foot bar boxes. I assume that every single other league is played mostly on 7 foot tables too, here in the US.
 
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