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cushion bounce - 03-24-2020, 12:17 PM

I have a GC4 with K55 profile rubber installed by Pat Sheehan in Portland about 15 years ago. i've been getting some ball bounce off certain places of the cushions. A few inches inside the corners on both short rails and also the same near my side pockets. Rail height is 1 7/16, checked a few times. Shimmed the worst spot yesterday and thought i was good but it's doing it again today. Could i get some suggestions as to a cause? I would assume it's a cushion thing but what? Rubber getting old? Glue? Why in just those spots?


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03-24-2020, 03:57 PM

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I have a GC4 with K55 profile rubber installed by Pat Sheehan in Portland about 15 years ago. i've been getting some ball bounce off certain places of the cushions. A few inches inside the corners on both short rails and also the same near my side pockets. Rail height is 1 7/16, checked a few times. Shimmed the worst spot yesterday and thought i was good but it's doing it again today. Could i get some suggestions as to a cause? I would assume it's a cushion thing but what? Rubber getting old? Glue? Why in just those spots?
Post a youtube video? Sounds weird!

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03-24-2020, 04:13 PM

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Post a youtube video? Sounds weird!

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Not sure i know how to do that and you can't really see the hop more than you hear it. its jumping up though, i think, would it jump if it were pinched?


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03-24-2020, 04:15 PM

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Not sure i know how to do that and you can't really see the hop more than you hear it. its jumping up though, i think, would it jump if it were pinched?
it would jump if the cushion is lower than it should be.


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Not sure i know how to do that and you can't really see the hop more than you hear it. its jumping up though, i think, would it jump if it were pinched?
Well, i got a slow motion vid on my phone. Can i post it?


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Well, i got a slow motion vid on my phone. Can i post it?
If you dont have a youtube account, make one and upload it there? then post a link here?

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I'm trying. lol. might be tomorrow. I see the ball sliding from the rail and then hopping. Like a slight pinch. Can the rubber be coming loose from the bottom?


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I'm trying. lol. might be tomorrow. I see the ball sliding from the rail and then hopping. Like a slight pinch. Can the rubber be coming loose from the bottom?
Anything is possible! Sounds strange since the nose height is right. Sounds like you got 15 years, am I right? What rubber did he use? Brunswick Superspeed cushions are a direct fit on your table. IMO the only subrail mod that needs to be done, would be properly extended subrails.


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Anything is possible! Sounds strange since the nose height is right. Sounds like you got 15 years, am I right? What rubber did he use? Brunswick Superspeed cushions are a direct fit on your table. IMO the only subrail mod that needs to be done, would be properly extended subrails.


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Actually took superspeeds off of it. Trying to reach Pat Sheehan in Portland to find out what he replaced them with. Superspeeds crumbled on the foot rail.And after taking a closer look it is hopping up from the cushion.


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03-25-2020, 07:05 AM

Try vacuuming and cleaning the cloth with warm water and Woolite, paying particular attention to the rail cushion ball contact point. From my experience most ball hop is just chalk/grime embedded in the rail ball contact area. It could also be due to worn rail cloth.


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03-25-2020, 07:09 AM

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I'm trying. lol. might be tomorrow. I see the ball sliding from the rail and then hopping. Like a slight pinch. Can the rubber be coming loose from the bottom?
If you can't get it posted, you can try emailing me the video and ill upload to my youtube account and post it.

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Try vacuuming and cleaning the cloth with warm water and Woolite, paying particular attention to the rail cushion ball contact point. From my experience most ball hop is just chalk/grime embedded in the rail ball contact area. It could also be due to worn rail cloth.


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Will definitely try that. Right now.


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03-25-2020, 08:01 AM

When was the cloth last replaced?


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03-25-2020, 08:57 AM

Are the balls clean??? I think dirty or very dull balls will cause some hop,
  
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03-29-2020, 08:53 PM

here's the vid from youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO1S5mRqHdE


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