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12-31-2018, 06:49 AM

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I was able to find a used Scruggs for $1800. Although out of my price range, it does have some of the qualities (I think) such as the 4 points, linen wrap, white butt, *vory and so on, but it has a Mikarta joint?

I've seen these on here, but have no idea if a Westinghouse Micarta joint is a good or bad thing for me? I know its personal preference, but is it better or worse overall (or more valuable I should say)
I would recommend you hold our for a steel jointed cue as the hit of a flat face non-steel jointed cue will definitely produce a different hit. Not sure where you live but you might consider going to a but tournament and hitting a few different cues before pulling the trigger on the purchase.

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12-31-2018, 07:04 AM

I agree, I need to play with some, but no where around here has anything decent. I'm in The Villages, Florida, below Ocala. Without driving an hour or more, there is barely any pool halls around as it is, apparently its a dying place (sadly).

My fear is absolutely buying something I won't like, but I do feel that a Scruggs could be a wise choice, I suppose I could find a buyer on here if needed to sell it for what I paid.
  
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12-31-2018, 10:31 AM

You are not going to find a nice Scruggs cue that you want for $1200 with points & veneers and ivory ferrules.
Search high and low if you will but that is a fools errand, unless the cue in question was warped or damaged.
Tim's cues are just in demand by knowledgebale cue buyers and that keeps the market prices higher for TS cues.

Find another cue-maker and you have lots of choices. Bob Frey was recommended and he's really a excellent cue-maker.
Another person to consider is Bob Owen and if you expand your budget a bit, he could build a great cue as would others.
I own a Scruggs cue and a couple of Owen cues. Bob's cues actually do play just as nice as TS cues as I've found out.


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*Bob Owen Custom- Level 8 (s/d 4-24-16) - Flat Ivory Joint
*J. Rauenzahn Custom - Level 6 (s/d 5-4-16) - Flat Ivory Joint

*J. Rauenzahn Custom - Level 8 (s/d 2-23-15) - Flat Ivory Joint
*Ed Prewitt Custom '05 - Level 8 - Flat Ivory Joint
*Bob Owen Custom - Level 8 (s/d 5-4-14) - Flat Ivory Joint
*Tim Scruggs Custom (9-6-95) Level 7 - Flat Ivory Joint
*Runde Schon '85 Custom "R" Series (1 of 1)
*Palmer (Original) - '72 (All Cocobolo Wood)
  
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12-31-2018, 01:12 PM

I think I have come to the realization that I cannot find a Scruggs cue for under $1,500 in good shape and certainly not less than $2,000 for one I want. So again, the choice is to wait and save or buy something really nice for $1,000 and then trade up.

I have found 2 Scruggs cues that are superb in condition, has some of the style I want and both under $2,000. Perhaps i'm just being picky that when I buy one, the one I really want will be found.

I'd pay more for the right cue, just haven't found it yet I guess.
  
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12-31-2018, 01:14 PM

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Josey can make traditional 4 point. I have one. 4 needle sharp points with veneers.

Apologies for my terrible camera work with a point & shoot..
I stand corrected, my apologies. Never seen points from Keith, pretty sweet.


  
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12-31-2018, 01:17 PM

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I agree, I need to play with some, but no where around here has anything decent. I'm in The Villages, Florida, below Ocala. Without driving an hour or more, there is barely any pool halls around as it is, apparently its a dying place (sadly).

My fear is absolutely buying something I won't like, but I do feel that a Scruggs could be a wise choice, I suppose I could find a buyer on here if needed to sell it for what I paid.
Rob if you are in Florida, you definitely need to get in touch with Bill Lister. Not sure where exactly in Florida he is but has tons of cues for sale. Believe his website to view his stuff and contact him is www.billiardbills.com


  
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12-31-2018, 01:33 PM

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I think I have come to the realization that I cannot find a Scruggs cue for under $1,500 in good shape and certainly not less than $2,000 for one I want. So again, the choice is to wait and save or buy something really nice for $1,000 and then trade up.

I have found 2 Scruggs cues that are superb in condition, has some of the style I want and both under $2,000. Perhaps i'm just being picky that when I buy one, the one I really want will be found.

I'd pay more for the right cue, just haven't found it yet I guess.
Billiardbills.com has one in great shape for $1299...but it’s a Merry Widow. So what do you want more? the hit/feel, the look, or the name of the maker?
  
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12-31-2018, 01:45 PM

The Helmstetter on there is actually a really nice looking cue... I don't know the comparison, but i'm guessing Helmstetter is not nearly the quality of a Scruggs?

I know the name, meaning they have been around longer, but rarely do I see "collectible" or highly valuable ones like Tim's.
  
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James White - 12-31-2018, 03:19 PM

Deanoc has a cue for sale that sounds exactly what you want, probably better, he guarantees everything he sells and I think he even will work out a payment plan for you, check with him, he's 100%.
  
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01-01-2019, 06:04 AM

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or buy something really nice for $1,000 and then trade up.
I would caution against buying less than what you want and assuming you'll recover that expense when you "trade up". The cue market is not what it was 20 years ago. You said that you own a cue that you love to play with. My free advice (worth what you paid for it) would be to wait and get what you really want.
  
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01-02-2019, 08:58 AM

I have a rare collectable Richard dickie neighbors cue message me for pics
  
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I have a rare collectable Richard dickie neighbors cue message me for pics
And I assume you're planning to take advantage of the man's passing to get top dollar?
Bad form, if so.


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01-02-2019, 09:51 AM

Try an older schon. They hit really hard.
Don't bother with a JW. They are designed to hit soft.
I hate the hard sound.

Tips do make a big difference.

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01-02-2019, 10:12 AM

Do you live in an area where there is a good cue dealer who can let you hit some cues? Before I paid $1k for a cue, I would want to feel how it hit. In my line of work, I have gotten to hit with a LOT of different brands of cues. I have hit balls with $5k cues that I hated, and $300 cues that felt great. I personally play with an older production Pechauer that is about $700, but I would hesitate to tell you one cue plays exactly like another. Put your hands on some cues.
  
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01-02-2019, 10:22 AM

Check Willie Blade. We are going to drop a new model soon, here it is on the photo. The price is $600, custom specs

  
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