When they just screwed his brother, don't forget to add that.
CSI INVITATIONAL 8-BALL (July 23-25, 2014) 16 Players (Winner $8K/ Runner up $5K)
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When they just screwed his brother, don't forget to add that.
What tournament where ???
Thats what forums are for. It is also important to be critical when the sport is helplessly dying. When the US has the honor of collecting some of the top players in the world in one setting, we should be even extra careful. Whatever the ruling is, the fact that there isnt a rule set in place for this situation is quite unprofessional.
No doubt, that is something so many people including Billy are ignoring. The mental mind **** that this change put on Ko Pin Yi an instant before his match started and how much it would screw with the little brothers head to see it all go down like this.
This tournament tarnished the results completely. SVB is not a champion of anything, that tin cup is worthless and meaningless. WTG SVB, WTG CSI.
How does anyone know that there wasn't a rule in place? I haven't talked to Mark or anyone connected with the event but how do we know that they didn't make the decision based on their own criteria?
Agreed. This is not a major tournament and the players are playing for the money not the title.
This. A million times this. So much ridiculous overreaction in this thread. It's pool not the end of the world. Just watch the matches and relax.
Problem with that, there is a rule it's called giving the other player (KO) a bye.
Anything else is funny business. Don't be afraid to stand up for the truth.
The truth will set you free.
How can you assert you know this affected anyone's mindset but your own?
And, how is this SVB's fault?
Give me a break. This has nothing to do with it being SVB. Had SVB gotten into the semi-finals legitimately and had to face Ko in a winner vs winner match Ko would have been mentally ready to face SVB and they would have played on even terms. That is not how it went down, the mental dynamics of the match were not what they were supposed to be because someone who was not supposed to be there suddenly appeared. It makes NO DIFFERENCE who the substitute player was, it is the fact that there should have been NO SUBSTITUTE at all!
And, how is this SVB's fault?
I don't blame SVB but I certainly would not feel terribly proud if I were him after "winning" this event and I would likely take my money and go away quietly back to my room without much celebration because I would know for a fact I did not really earn it.
The fact that it involves svb on an USA operated event on USA soil makes it more controversial. SVB hater or not, people should be able to voice their own opinion as you do. Please dont mistake the person for their claims.
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I'm not defending CSI, but to answer this question, it doesn't take long to think of qualifying matches, tournaments, and competitions that the guy who qualified to advance couldn't make it to the next level of tournament so they gave the next guy the spot. Happens all the time.
It might make more sense for formats that don't have the qualifier and finals on the same day.
Again, not defending the CSI decision.
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FWIW
Based upon my knowledge and experience, in most two stage tournaments, in the event that a group qualifier is not able to continue to the next stage (for injury, disqualification, etc...) it is quite common to advance the next highest group finisher.
This is not the first time it has happened. I agree that in a single or double elimination tournament, a knockout means you're out. But this is generally not the case in Two stage tournaments.
I've seen this happen in soccer, badminton, and martial arts tourneys.
Having said this, the players are entitled to play under whatever rules were stated or implied at the beginning.
FWIW
Based upon my knowledge and experience, in most two stage tournaments, in the event that a group qualifier is not able to continue to the next stage (for injury, disqualification, etc...) it is quite common to advance the next highest group finisher.
This is not the first time it has happened. I agree that in a single or double elimination tournament, a knockout means you're out. But this is generally not the case in Two stage tournaments.
I've seen this happen in soccer, badminton, and martial arts tourneys.
Having said this, the players are entitled to play under whatever rules were stated or implied at the beginning.
It's so true that if it were any other player there wouldn't be nearly this much fuss put up about it. Score is tied 4-4 by the way. Funny thing is...how does anyone know that there wasn't a rule in place if this happened?