Do You Use "Force Follow" in your games?
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Not as common
Back in the day of the mud ball on bar tables follow was the way to go. The saying was draw for show, follow for dough. With oversized or heavy cue balls, the cue ball was the 800 pound gorilla on the table and huge draw was as unusual as huge follow is today. I suspect the cloth came into play too, it was pretty unusual to see huge draw even on the big tracks, nine and ten feet tables.
Follow and force follow should be in anyone's bag of tricks, times they are still the best shots and a person should shoot them often enough to be comfortable with them.
Hu
Back in the day of the mud ball on bar tables follow was the way to go. The saying was draw for show, follow for dough. With oversized or heavy cue balls, the cue ball was the 800 pound gorilla on the table and huge draw was as unusual as huge follow is today. I suspect the cloth came into play too, it was pretty unusual to see huge draw even on the big tracks, nine and ten feet tables.
Follow and force follow should be in anyone's bag of tricks, times they are still the best shots and a person should shoot them often enough to be comfortable with them.
Hu
Yes. Stun with Force Follow with 1/2 tip to 1 tip of Top is a great One Pocket tool.
Here is a video and I think the third way is the easiest to get shape on the 2 ball. Don't give me crap as I'm not a teacher. I use this shot all the time in my games.
https://youtu.be/KXc6UiOds2o
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Basic to 1-pocket, in my opinion.
I like the third move too !!!!!!!!!!!
Puts a little style in the shot with plenty control -
bill
Are these different ways to get more follow, or different names for the same thing?
pj
chgo
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Same thing. I call it forced follow but someone just said it's high follow. CB tip action is the same.
I use it everytime I "need" it.
It's not hard to do. It's just another way to move (bend) the cueballs line of travel to get into position, play a carom....etc...etc...
Any average player should be able to do it on command....no matter if their "in stroke" or not...
I'm sure I do, but I don't think of it as something with a name of its own - just a follow shot hit hard and high.
pj
chgo
There it is in a nutshell.
definitely
I wouldn't call this force follow. It's just a normal follow shot, nothing unusual.
Some people (336Robin) on here think force follow is what most would describe as stun run through. I've always thought of force follow as when you're almost straight on a shot and have to go forwards 2 or 3 rails. Quite a bit different than the shot on the video.
Patrick, lots of things like that, huh? Hell you could call it George and Alice as long as you and your hands understand it together. Like "hit" and "feel" - it's when you try to teach/discuss it that the vernacular gets in the way.
I tend to "feel of" follow as one thing - which can include up to power follow (relating to power draw).
More about influencing the cue ball with the variables really - all about rotational energy generated.
Force follow I associate more with the action of hitting an object ball full, then a rail, most of the linear momentum is retarded but much less of the rotational momentum is effected - and the cue ball drives toward and/or into the rail multiple times. Can be useful sometimes.
But then again, I'm pretty f'd up
I tend to "feel of" follow as one thing - which can include up to power follow (relating to power draw).
More about influencing the cue ball with the variables really - all about rotational energy generated.
Force follow I associate more with the action of hitting an object ball full, then a rail, most of the linear momentum is retarded but much less of the rotational momentum is effected - and the cue ball drives toward and/or into the rail multiple times. Can be useful sometimes.
But then again, I'm pretty f'd up
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So, the "bending" of the CB has nothing to do with your decision?
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Whether it's the reason for or a side effect of the shot, it's always taken into account.
pj
chgo
Making the "bend" of the CB is what gives it the shape. The forward spin on the CB gives the bend. I call that force follow but that's me. Typical high English would not cause that. (in my game).
What's the difference between that high English and typical high English? What do you do differently?
pj
chgo