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boingy??.........
Kinda like bumpy, but not as springy. :thumbup:
Review your one successful shot. That is what you want to learn to do repeatedly. Notice the difference in the speed of the cb on the way to the ob? That shot you successfully used a draw-drag shot. The sidespin brought the cb back.
Granted, you only got it one time. But, that proves that it is very doable. Now, that you know it can be done, the work begins. Pay close attention to detail and how it felt each time you get it right or close to right.
Well, the one rail shot can be done. It's not all that difficult either, at least not in the conditions in which I'm playing. I would not, however, say it's the "right" shot in this situation. The two railer (zig zag) is by far easier and more repeatable. If your shots demand perfect execution like this, you are not playing good patterns IMO. That is not to say that the shot is worthless to practice, sometimes you can't play the 2 railer. If you can play the 2 railer, then that's what I'd do.
It's amazing how just a little bit of english will help this shot along, so you don't have to slam it. You need probably 1 tip low, 1 tip right, maybe even less.
It's amazing how just a little bit of english will help this shot along, so you don't have to slam it. You need probably 1 tip low, 1 tip right, maybe even less.
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It's a 9' table with 4" corners. My OB mark was 8 3/8 inches from the side rail edge. To get the cue ball to draw back in a "U" shape, , I had to move the OB at least another inch out and really stroke it. Personally I thought the easiest thing to do consistently was kill the CB with soft low left and cut the 9 in.
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Ah, my OB was 6 9/16" from the nose of the cushion as the way I interpreted the drawing. We were shooting completely different shots. My second position was at 8" away.
SJD, you started this mess, so set up your 9' table with a tape measure as per the below pics, and let me know if you can still reliably get the CB to spin back one rail for shape on the 9. I spent all evening on it, you owe me that much
OB 6 9/16" from nose of cushion
OB 2 1/2" from diamond
CB 4" from diamond, and on center string
Honestly though, the original poster probably had a shot come up and missed position. He later set it up and struggled with it. I highly doubt he used a ruler or was really super exact about the layout. Like iusedtoberich points out, an inch difference can totally change what's possible on the shot.
Looks like a tip to tip-and-a-half of left, and a smidge of draw, with enough speed that cueball hits both longrails and returns toward the longrail (top of photo).
To work the shot out, a good thing to do is to pick a spot on the longrail (bottom of photo) that you want to hit with the cueball, then cue the shot to make that happen. A diamond to diamond-and-a-half left of the opposite side pocket looks about right.
All that said, there are varying combinations of draw and left English that will work on that shot to cross both rails. If you develop the skill of consistently hitting the spot on the 2nd rail that you choose on those types of shots, you should improve quickly.
Good luck
To work the shot out, a good thing to do is to pick a spot on the longrail (bottom of photo) that you want to hit with the cueball, then cue the shot to make that happen. A diamond to diamond-and-a-half left of the opposite side pocket looks about right.
All that said, there are varying combinations of draw and left English that will work on that shot to cross both rails. If you develop the skill of consistently hitting the spot on the 2nd rail that you choose on those types of shots, you should improve quickly.
Good luck