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Left Shoulder Pain - 01-20-2017, 12:45 AM

I am sure it was a problem with my form, I probably put too much weight on my left hand while shooting. I never had this left shoulder pain before, and once I discovered it, I adjusted my stance a little to put less pressure on my left hand.

Someone told me they hardly put ANY pressure on their left hand when shooting, even though every good player looks like their left arm is pretty straight, so that boggles me in how do you lean over towards the table, with your center of mass well in front of your legs/hips, and put almost no weight on your left hand, and thus shoulder?


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01-20-2017, 06:03 AM

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I am sure it was a problem with my form, I probably put too much weight on my left hand while shooting. I never had this left shoulder pain before, and once I discovered it, I adjusted my stance a little to put less pressure on my left hand.

Someone told me they hardly put ANY pressure on their left hand when shooting, even though every good player looks like their left arm is pretty straight, so that boggles me in how do you lean over towards the table, with your center of mass well in front of your legs/hips, and put almost no weight on your left hand, and thus shoulder?
I think it is 100 times more likely, that you have an undiagnosed shoulder or wristproblem, that is now being aggravated, by playing pool, rather than a problem caused by arm position.
Carpal tunnel or torn rotator cuff would be the most likely.
  
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01-20-2017, 06:51 AM

I don't put much pressure on my bridge hand or arm. My left leg is forward a little bent and my right is rather straight behind me as I bend over almost in a runners starting position.

I think if you need to put all of your weight on your hand you may not have enough core strength.

It could also be because of stiffness in your shoulder. You may need to do some shoulder, arm and neck stretching to become more flexible.

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01-20-2017, 07:02 AM

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I am sure it was a problem with my form, I probably put too much weight on my left hand while shooting. I never had this left shoulder pain before, and once I discovered it, I adjusted my stance a little to put less pressure on my left hand.

Someone told me they hardly put ANY pressure on their left hand when shooting, even though every good player looks like their left arm is pretty straight, so that boggles me in how do you lean over towards the table, with your center of mass well in front of your legs/hips, and put almost no weight on your left hand, and thus shoulder?
I've seen this a lot. It's a stance/weight distribution problem. You can't just change the way you lean to fix this. You have to change the position of your feet relative to the line of the shot. Study stances. There's lots of good information out there.
  
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01-20-2017, 07:11 AM

I get pretty significant bridge shoulder pain too.
I think my form is pretty textbook, but it prob looks far different than it feels.
I have found that stretching before playing definitely helps to delay the onset of pain (due to fatigue?). Problem is, i am pretty flexible and i get to the point that the muscles are all stretched out and i feel the joint structure being stressed, as opposed to the muscles.
Not sure what the solution is, but if i play all day, i am hurting there.
And as for injury to the area; i was swimming and felt a tweak in the shoulder in 2013. I probably did tear something in there, mild, but it hurt for a long time. I never went to a dr, thanks to obmbercare.


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01-20-2017, 07:57 AM

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I am sure it was a problem with my form, I probably put too much weight on my left hand while shooting. I never had this left shoulder pain before, and once I discovered it, I adjusted my stance a little to put less pressure on my left hand.

Someone told me they hardly put ANY pressure on their left hand when shooting, even though every good player looks like their left arm is pretty straight, so that boggles me in how do you lean over towards the table, with your center of mass well in front of your legs/hips, and put almost no weight on your left hand, and thus shoulder?
Not being nosey, but how old are you? A very large percentage of folks see some degree of arthritic change as we age. Shoulder muscles (rotator cuff) tendons run through a very small "tunnel". As your shoulder moves toward, and past, 90 degrees of flexion, that tunnel becomes even more narrow.

Unless you are getting up into 70's or 80's, any RC tear would be uncommon in the absence of a traumatic injury. However, impingement related tendinitis, bursitis, and/or postural muscle fatigue soreness are commonly the result of overuse.

A bit of free med advice that I used to tell my patients is when you get a new pain (outside of a traumatic event or injury) conservative treatment (r.i.c.e., activity modification, stretching, OTC NSAIDS if doctor allowed) is ok for a short period, but any pain that persists for more than a week or so probably deserves to be evaluated by your physician.
  
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01-20-2017, 08:21 AM

I had left shoulder pain for a long time. Couldn't stretch my arm out or raise it over my head. Had a ultra-sound and found out I had 6 teard in my shoulder. Had a proceder dome called PRP(platelet-rich-plasma). Read about it .It uses your own blood. It was excrutiating pain to stretch my arm out abd to raise it over my head. It was like a miracle happened. Took about 3-4 weeks. Not that expensive.
  
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I am sure it was a problem with my form, I probably put too much weight on my left hand while shooting. I never had this left shoulder pain before, and once I discovered it, I adjusted my stance a little to put less pressure on my left hand.

Someone told me they hardly put ANY pressure on their left hand when shooting, even though every good player looks like their left arm is pretty straight, so that boggles me in how do you lean over towards the table, with your center of mass well in front of your legs/hips, and put almost no weight on your left hand, and thus shoulder?
This is the problem!

You need to be able to raise your bridge hand from the table while in your stance.
  
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I am sure it was a problem with my form, I probably put too much weight on my left hand while shooting. I never had this left shoulder pain before, and once I discovered it, I adjusted my stance a little to put less pressure on my left hand.

Someone told me they hardly put ANY pressure on their left hand when shooting, even though every good player looks like their left arm is pretty straight, so that boggles me in how do you lean over towards the table, with your center of mass well in front of your legs/hips, and put almost no weight on your left hand, and thus shoulder?
I'd do a search, there's allot of good info on your problem from prior threads within this website. I had ta quit years ago for almost a year, at a young age with the same kind of problem.


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The Stark Reality Is This......... - 01-20-2017, 11:12 AM

Pain......did someone mention pain in the shoulder.

Not going to bore anyone with my history but needless to say,
when it comes to playing pool and shoulder pain, I occupy the
throne on that topic. 5 surgeries in 6 1/2 years & another is being
considered now which could involve an artificial shoulder replacement.

You learn to play when you can tolerate the pain and so when you can't,
you get to watch others play pool. There is no middle ground. No one cares
if you are hurting except yourself. When you miss shots because of pain, and
rest assured you will, your opponent does not care.....spectators do not care....
only you will. It's like a migraine headache.....no one can see it or feel it but
you suffer with it. When the reason for your pain is invisible to others, they
stop caring as much about your situation.......learn to live with it and whatever
you do, stop playing when it hurts....for as long as it takes.....sometimes I have
to take a week to 10 days off from playing pool even after a hour of practice.....
no one cares about your dilemma and pain except yourself.....learn to manage it.



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01-20-2017, 11:25 AM

I started having pain in my bridge shoulder shortly after I began playing pool. I had a labrum tear and needed to have surgery. I doubt that pool caused the injury but maybe just aggravated the shoulder. Chicken or the egg. Who knows.
  
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Pain......did someone mention pain in the shoulder.

Not going to bore anyone with my history but needless to say,
when it comes to playing pool and shoulder pain, I occupy the
throne on that topic. 5 surgeries in 6 1/2 years & another is being
considered now which could involve an artificial shoulder replacement.

You learn to play when you can tolerate the pain and so when you can't,
you get to watch others play pool. There is no middle ground. No one cares
if you are hurting except yourself. When you miss shots because of pain, and
rest assured you will, your opponent does not care.....spectators do not care....
only you will. It's like a migraine headache.....no one can see it or feel it but
you suffer with it. When the reason for your pain is invisible to others, they
stop caring as much about your situation.......learn to live with it and whatever
you do, stop playing when it hurts....for as long as it takes.....sometimes I have
to take a week to 10 days off from playing pool even after a hour of practice.....
no one cares about your dilemma and pain except yourself.....learn to manage it.



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Matt his concern was the game of pool created his pain.


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Pain......did someone mention pain in the shoulder.

Not going to bore anyone with my history but needless to say,
when it comes to playing pool and shoulder pain, I occupy the
throne on that topic. 5 surgeries in 6 1/2 years & another is being
considered now which could involve an artificial shoulder replacement.

You learn to play when you can tolerate the pain and so when you can't,
you get to watch others play pool. There is no middle ground. No one cares
if you are hurting except yourself. When you miss shots because of pain, and
rest assured you will, your opponent does not care.....spectators do not care....
only you will. It's like a migraine headache.....no one can see it or feel it but
you suffer with it. When the reason for your pain is invisible to others, they
stop caring as much about your situation.......learn to live with it and whatever
you do, stop playing when it hurts....for as long as it takes.....sometimes I have
to take a week to 10 days off from playing pool even after a hour of practice.....
no one cares about your dilemma and pain except yourself.....learn to manage it.



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I had already told him I had torn rotator cuff , and arthritis ,bursitis tendonitis in the shoulder lol.
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01-20-2017, 01:21 PM

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I was experiencing mysterious shoulder pain during and after playing. I haven't had it return since I took some lessons and had my stance adjusted. Not adjusted to relieve any pain as I never mentioned it, but it relieved the pain.

I suppose it had something to do with too much weight on my bridge hand? Who knows, just glad it's gone.
  
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