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Have you witnessed shots that you would not believe unless seen in person or on video - 05-16-2020, 11:39 AM

I have read pool stories on here about players who have done things that are just unbelievable, like certain types of bank shots for example, that were done on the 1st try after a bet was made.

Would love to hear some stories about unbelievable shots, or other pool related things that you have actually witnessed in person, or at least seen on video.

I have never really witnessed any kind of unbelievable play before, but I do hope to someday.

Was watching Filler play Chohan the other day, in 1 pocket, and some of the shots and position play that he did were really impressive. It was probably the most entertaining pool that I have ever seen, and that it saying a lot, considering that One Pocket is usually very boring for me. Filler made it exciting though. Chohan played really good too, and made some really cool shots.

Anyways, thanks in advance for any stories about some really far out, unbelievable play or shots that you have witnessed in the past.

Video links (and the times of the shots) would be even better.

I would like to add that I only want to see or hear about shots of pure skill, not luck. There is a big difference, because though I have seen many really great shots, I think that they were at least in part due to luck also. I hope you understand what I mean by that.

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05-16-2020, 11:46 AM

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I would like to add that I only want to see or hear about shots of pure skill, not luck. There is a big difference, because though I have seen many really great shots, I think that they were at least in part due to luck also. I hope you understand what I mean by that.
What do you think of Efren's famous "Z" kick against' Earl?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbKeJ8jIRB4

I say it was "skill" to hit the ball and "pure luck" to make it.

There are tons of examples of shots like that. Hail Mary shots...once in a million.

If the guy is a good player, everyone will call it "skill".

If the guy is a not so good player, they will call it "luck".

Good players get "lucky", too.


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05-16-2020, 11:47 AM

any highlight video of efren would have them
  
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05-16-2020, 12:09 PM

Here's one:

https://www.facebook.com/pluszoomin/...6112885724546/
  
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05-16-2020, 01:26 PM

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What do you think of Efren's famous "Z" kick against' Earl?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbKeJ8jIRB4

I say it was "skill" to hit the ball and "pure luck" to make it.

There are tons of examples of shots like that. Hail Mary shots...once in a million.

If the guy is a good player, everyone will call it "skill".

If the guy is a not so good player, they will call it "luck".

Good players get "lucky", too.
Efren always gets lucky, he'll tell you that himself.
  
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05-16-2020, 02:21 PM

Of course, there's the Vernon Elliot impossible bank, but here's an impossible cut shot care of Bob Jewett.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaSKh1PSqok

I still don't know how he did it!
  
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05-16-2020, 02:24 PM

here is 2 unbelievable shots
Ghost in Eurotour
https://www.facebook.com/dgiallourak...7973017170224/
jump shot that will never happen again
https://www.facebook.com/thebilliard...4784151865322/
  
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05-16-2020, 03:01 PM

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What do you think of Efren's famous "Z" kick against' Earl?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbKeJ8jIRB4

I say it was "skill" to hit the ball and "pure luck" to make it.

There are tons of examples of shots like that. Hail Mary shots...once in a million.

If the guy is a good player, everyone will call it "skill".

If the guy is a not so good player, they will call it "luck".

Good players get "lucky", too.
Was told I had to wait to give you a greenie...so I'm quoting in agreement.
  
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05-16-2020, 03:44 PM

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What do you think of Efren's famous "Z" kick against' Earl?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbKeJ8jIRB4

I say it was "skill" to hit the ball and "pure luck" to make it.

There are tons of examples of shots like that. Hail Mary shots...once in a million.

If the guy is a good player, everyone will call it "skill".

If the guy is a not so good player, they will call it "luck".

Good players get "lucky", too.
Efren is really great, and maybe the greatest pool player of all time, but I believe that though that was a really great hit, there was some luck involved in making that shot. If that shot was pure skill, then he could make it every time, and even he probably could not make that shot 1 out of 30 tries. Not sure how many tries I would give him to make that same shot, but I do believe that he could at least hit the object ball most of the time. He has always been very modest, so I am sure that he would probably say that it was a lucky shot too.

This is the type of thing that I am asking about. I forget the Bank players name, but he has been called the greatest Bank player who ever lived. I read on here about Bank shots that he would place huge bets on (like maybe a $500 bet, which would have been a lot of money during his era), and he would nail the shot on the 1st try. I forgot his name though, so can't look up the AZB thread.
  
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05-16-2020, 03:51 PM

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That was really cool. The hit was pure skill, but was that an intentional shot though, that he made? I do not know about that. Did he really know that the cue ball would go up that high, and come back down like that, for the carom combo shot that he made? Looked super cool, but I would have liked to seen him call that shot, just in case he did nail it, as intended? Like I said, who knows if he intended to make that shot?
  
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Of course, there's the Vernon Elliot impossible bank, but here's an impossible cut shot care of Bob Jewett.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaSKh1PSqok

I still don't know how he did it!
Thanks. Vernon Elliot was the player who I could not remember the name of. He would place bets on bank shots, and nail them on his 1st, or 2nd try, right?

I remember the impossible cut shot that Bob Jewett made.

There was this old timer that I knew in Evansville IN, when I lived there several years ago, who would tell me that he could make that same shot, but he needed me to give him like 20 tries to make it.

This other old timer from Evansville told me that he used to play Vernon Elliot bank pool, and Vernon would only spot him 1 ball, and he told me that he had beat him before with just the 1 ball spot. I thought that was really cool. He must have been in his mid 80's (I am guessing), and he could still play pretty strong. He offered lessons too.
  
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05-16-2020, 04:02 PM

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Considering he lucked onto the 2 ball after making a good hit, that is by no means an extremely difficult shot. I am an average player at best, and I have pulled that shot off many times. I didn't figure out how to hit that shot, as a better player showed me how easy it was, and all I did was just what he told me to do. It baffles me why a lot of players over the years have ohhhh'd and ahhhh'd when I have pulled it off, again, because it is not difficult. I usually just think to myself when they are so amazed; "are you telling me they don't know that shot?" Honestly, an average player can learn that shot in about 15 minutes.
  
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here is 2 unbelievable shots
Ghost in Eurotour
https://www.facebook.com/dgiallourak...7973017170224/
jump shot that will never happen again
https://www.facebook.com/thebilliard...4784151865322/
That was crazy, lol, but check out the shot that Jayson Shaw makes after that video ends. It is a draw off of the bottom short rail, and then come around 3 rails to make a ball in the corner pocket. That was really cool.

The 1st link does not work.
  
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05-16-2020, 04:06 PM

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Efren is really great, and maybe the greatest pool player of all time, but I believe that though that was a really great hit, there was some luck involved in making that shot. If that shot was pure skill, then he could make it every time, and even he probably could not make that shot 1 out of 30 tries. Not sure how many tries I would give him to make that same shot, but I do believe that he could at least hit the object ball most of the time. He has always been very modest, so I am sure that he would probably say that it was a lucky shot too.

This is the type of thing that I am asking about. I forget the Bank players name, but he has been called the greatest Bank player who ever lived. I read on here about Bank shots that he would place huge bets on (like maybe a $500 bet, which would have been a lot of money during his era), and he would nail the shot on the 1st try. I forgot his name though, so can't look up the AZB thread.

Lots of names could go in there, but Eddie Taylor comes immediately to mind...


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05-16-2020, 04:11 PM

this doesn't Sound dramatic, and it doesn't Look dramatic like a movie shot, but go ahead, try it.

about 10 years ago i walked into an unfamiliar room to play some straight pool. usually that brings mostly blank stares, an occasional nod, and a lot of ignorant guffaws from people who think i don't even know how to play 8-ball. however, the counterman in this place had played straight pool many years earlier, and came over to chat, then made a claim that he really, Really, REALLY should've made into a proposition bet.

he said back when he was playing 14.1 a lot, he could make a legal opening break, driving 2 balls to the cushions, and leave the cue ball frozen in the jaws of the upper pocket with no direct shot available. i invisibly rolled my eyes, of course -- as in, they probably went around a full 360. because it is clearly a ridiculous brag.

but then he grabbed his cue, i still remember it was a Joss butt with a 314 that didn't quite match for diameter on it, and waited while i set up the balls. on the first try, he came close but was well out of the pocket. mind you, this was his first try, and afaik he hadn't even played that day, because it was 5pm and the place had just opened.

he nailed the next 2.

jammed inside the pocket, no view of anything on the table, hanging over the edge. wtaf.

you could've knocked me over with a feather. seriously, that's like a 1:10,000 shot. i'll give you all day, you won't get close.


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