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Cooks leaving SF due to low wages... - 12-26-2013, 02:06 PM

http://www.sfgate.com/food/article/E...045.php#page-1

Basically this article laments the fact that cooks are leaving because they can't afford to live in San Francisco on cook's wages....it's a piece that is meant to tear at the heartstrings of the public and move towards raising the minimum wage in SF...already the highest in the country...though it never actually comes out and calls for the minimum wage to be raised.

They even quote owners and Chef/owners of these restaurants.

The whole time ignoring the fact that these very people wringing their hands and losing their top sous chefs are free to pay their cooks more money to keep them.

But no. We need to raise the minimum wage...lol. Or make it the law that the restaurant can collect the tips and use the server's tips to raise the wages of the kitchen staff...Priceless.

Really hard to overestimate how far heads are in the sand in the city by the bay.


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12-26-2013, 04:26 PM

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http://www.sfgate.com/food/article/E...045.php#page-1

Basically this article laments the fact that cooks are leaving because they can't afford to live in San Francisco on cook's wages....it's a piece that is meant to tear at the heartstrings of the public and move towards raising the minimum wage in SF...already the highest in the country...though it never actually comes out and calls for the minimum wage to be raised.

They even quote owners and Chef/owners of these restaurants.

The whole time ignoring the fact that these very people wringing their hands and losing their top sous chefas are free to pay their cooks more money to keep them.

But no. We need to raise the minimum wage...lol. Or make it the law that the restaurant can collect the tips and use the server's tips to raise the wages of the kitchen staff...Priceless.

Really hard to overestimate how far heads are in the sand in the city by the bay.
This is a recurring theme anywhere high tech is the major workforce. High salaries->high rents-->highlifstyle catered to by lowly paid semi-skilled service workers.

In the old days, like 60's and 70's service workers were made up of highschool kids and wages could be low because their rent was already paid for by their parent(s). Now, with the unemployment rates of service and unskilled workers at an all time high, the restaurant business can hire adults in place of inexperienced teen workers whose most endearing skillset is typing with their thumbs.

Sort of a vicious cycle has set in with lazy teens who have been given their every whim because their friends have it and companies that rely on adults to do what used to be a teenagers part time job. I was prepping and cooking filet mignons, monte christos, T-bones, and making reuben sandwiches in a private club until midnight plus going to school at the age of 16. Something pretty much unheard of today. I see no solutions that will work for the adult employees that can't make single unit rent on their measely wages except to live in a communal type setting. Communal high rise barracks style living is how they do it in Hong Kong where an entire floor serves mutltiple people who each individual or couple have small room for sleeping quarters. .Everything else like kitchen, laundry, and bathrooms are communal no different than some military barracks.

I had a professiona; co-worker that lived and worked remotely from SF. Even though his salary was near double mine for cost of living , he couldn't afford his own place. He and his gf shared an apt with another couple to make ends meet and be close to downtown,.

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This is a recurring theme anywhere high tech is the major workforce. High salaries->high rents-->highlifstyle catered to by lowly paid semi-skilled service workers.

In the old days, like 60's and 70's service workers were made up of highschool kids and wages could be low because their rent was already paid for by their parent(s). Now, with the unemployment rates of service and unskilled workers at an all time high, the restaurant business can hire adults in place of inexperienced teen workers whose most endearing skillset is typing with their thumbs.

Sort of a vicious cycle has set in with lazy teens who have been given their every whim because their friends have it and companies that rely on adults to do what used to be a teenagers part time job. I was prepping and cooking filet mignons, monte christos, T-bones, and making reuben sandwiches in a private club until midnight plus going to school at the age of 16. Something pretty much unheard of today. I see no solutions that will work for the adult employees that can't make single unit rent on their measely wages except to live in a communal type setting. Communal high rise barracks style living is how they do it in Hong Kong where an entire floor serves mutltiple people who each individual or couple have small room for sleeping quarters. .Everything else like kitchen, laundry, and bathrooms are communal no different than some military barracks..
Yeah, I was a prep cook when I was 16 too. Now many of them are married, kids, etc...Just not a job that will sustain that.

Still, if the restaurant owners think they should make more then they are the sole people who can change that. They should just pay them more. And figure out a way to either cut costs in other places in their business or raise prices to cover the difference. If they can't then there isn't a viable economic demand for their restaurant.

Restaurant food is cheap in SF compared to NYC. Even though cost of living is similar. The difference in SF is that there isn't affordable housing close enough to downtown for these employees. They can't live in Jersey, for example.


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Do they not have communes in SF anymore?


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12-26-2013, 04:47 PM

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Do they not have communes in SF anymore?
Tech entrepreneurs revive communal living
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...ng-4988388.php

Unfortunetely, even some of these are high dollar tech worker salary types. Not sure a Chef would make the grade to afford communal living with a bunch of techies. Very inteersting article how some pay $400 a month just to have a shot at a mattress on a floor if they get there early enough in some low rent communes.

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Not every co-living community needs a mansion to make it work.

Leroy Clunne-Kiely, 25, lives in the Loft - a large high-end South of Market loft with mattresses that are shared among residents. Each pays monthly dues for the right to use the mattresses on a first-come, first-serve basis.

"You just grab what you get each night," said Clunne-Kiely, an engineer who pays $400 a month and has lived in the space for a year. "It's given me personal freedom. When you can live and work unconventionally, it becomes easier to succeed."

And even in the low end of the co-living setups, there might be a billionaire in the next bunk bed.

"We have one of Twitter's first angel investors staying with us. I think he likes to know what the young entrepreneurs are up to," said Tom Bielecki, 24, who stayed in a co-living space in the city after flying in from Calgary to pitch his startup - the automation of 3-D printers - to Y Combinator. "None of this culture exists where I'm from. It's like coming to the moon

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