One pocket rule question

btown

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This came up last night playing some one pocket for $50 a game.

Cue-ball and object ball are frozen together, can you shoot straight thru?

Or do you need to shoot away or at a 45?

Thanks for the replies
 

garczar

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This came up last night playing some one pocket for $50 a game.

Cue-ball and object ball are frozen together, can you shoot straight thru?

Or do you need to shoot away or at a 45?

Thanks for the replies
Straight-thru is not a foul. When they're close but not touching is when you have to shoot at an angle away from the ob.
 
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Bob Jewett

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Straight-thru is not a foul. When they're close but not touching is when you have to shoot at an angle away from the ob.
That's the official rule but some places make up their own rules. DCC in particular has its own rules and if you are there, it's good to ask. For example, at DCC you are allowed to hit the cue ball twice as long as you're somewhat jacked up.
 

garczar

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That's the official rule but some places make up their own rules. DCC in particular has its own rules and if you are there, it's good to ask. For example, at DCC you are allowed to hit the cue ball twice as long as you're somewhat jacked up.
I love DCC but this rule is kinda "jacked-up" to me. You really need to get straight on the rules before you play.
 

Patrick Johnson

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We go by the width of a chalk cube. If you're closer than that you have to shoot at an angle.
As you probably know, you can tell even when they're closer than that by how the CB moves - but you have to know what to look for.

pj
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lfigueroa

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This came up last night playing some one pocket for $50 a game.

Cue-ball and object ball are frozen together, can you shoot straight thru?

Or do you need to shoot away or at a 45?

Thanks for the replies


You can shoot straight through but you need to jack up a bit.

Jacking up helps prevent a double hit plus you'll make your opponent and the ref happy. (Scott Smith has reffed this shot on me several times at the DCC.)

Lou Figueroa
 

Bob Jewett

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here's a shameless plug for tom tom....:wink:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZiZguPILCA

(he's got lots of good stuff.....)

That's a good explanation of the "two times fuller system" which I think was first in print in Bob Byrne's "Standard Book". Here's the first diagram from Byrne showing how to do the calculation when the balls are not lined up so evenly with the cushion.

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There is more info on the system on Dr. Dave's website including video.

As Tom says, it's important to not use follow or draw as that will change the direction of the cue ball.

The shot he shows is probably illegal at Derby City because of the different rules they use there.
 

garczar

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As you probably know, you can tell even when they're closer than that by how the CB moves - but you have to know what to look for.

pj
chgo
Local tournaments have used this rule for a while now. I'm fully aware that you can be closer and not foul but in a tournament it avoids a lot of arguing &bitc*^#ing.
 

tucson9ball

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This came up last night playing some one pocket for $50 a game.

Cue-ball and object ball are frozen together, can you shoot straight thru?

Or do you need to shoot away or at a 45?

Thanks for the replies

For many years it's been allowed to shoot right through. Keep in mind....if there are other balls in the area, you can not have contact with the Cue ball and one of the secondary balls at the same time. So, when following through with the frozen ball, you may have to shorten your stroke if there are other balls nearby...
 
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