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Here We Go.... - 06-13-2010, 07:48 AM

Well Steve, it looks like you started something.... another Goal to work on.
  
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06-13-2010, 08:31 AM

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Huckster,

Btw, "Hippy Jimmie" - is that Jim Gottier?

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Hippy Jimmie refers to Jimmy Reid.
  
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06-13-2010, 09:20 AM

tom vanover from baltimore won 9 straight maryland 9 ball titles he was a force in the 70s 80s and 90s he played every great player that came threw baltimore and beat most of them i know tom play sigel a bunch of times straight pool also richard riggie tom is still living still working and playing in his pool room in baltimore at 70 still plays the road players that come bye cigar tom did play alot of straight pool in his prime so maby he is one of the few
  
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06-13-2010, 10:08 AM

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I realize the imperfections of this system. In truth, if I ever finish the living list, I'll probably move on to the all-time and possibly market that one instead.

However, even just the living list is getting frustrating. It's bizarre to me that no one in the main forum can tell me what Keith's, Buddy's, Efren's, etc., high runs are. If I can't track down whether Buddy Hall has ever run 200, I have no idea how I would ever hope to track down whether, say, Louie Roberts' high run was over 200. (Perhaps a bad example, because maybe he was a super famous 14.1er; I'm really not sure.)

Anyway, your point is a good one and I'm sure I'll move in that direction once I finish the current list.

Thanks,
Steve
As to Buddy Hall, here's Jay Helfert's reply to a comment I made in a recent thread:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpo...9&postcount=27
So it looks like Buddy should be on the list.

As to Keith, how about just sending a PM to JAM asking her to ask Keith and let you know.

As to Efren, surely someone could ask him directly the next time he is in the states. I remember a 141 at the 2000 U.S. Open (vs. Dallas West), but I've not heard of over 200.
  
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06-13-2010, 10:46 AM

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As to Buddy Hall, here's Jay Helfert's reply to a comment I made in a recent thread:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpo...9&postcount=27
So it looks like Buddy should be on the list.

As to Keith, how about just sending a PM to JAM asking her to ask Keith and let you know.

As to Efren, surely someone could ask him directly the next time he is in the states. I remember a 141 at the 2000 U.S. Open (vs. Dallas West), but I've not heard of over 200.
Thanks for the info on Buddy. I'm asking Jay for a little more detail, and hopefully he'll chime in on some other names.

I tried PMing JAM a few days ago, but her inbox is full. Anyway, it seems from a few different sources that Keith has not run 200, so he's been removed from the possibles as of yesterday.

I have a few people working on the filipinos, but not sure if they will pan out. I'm really hoping Mr. Helfert can help out with them.

- Steve
  
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06-13-2010, 11:02 AM

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Thanks for the info on Buddy. I'm asking Jay for a little more detail, and hopefully he'll chime in on some other names.

I tried PMing JAM a few days ago, but her inbox is full. Anyway, it seems from a few different sources that Keith has not run 200, so he's been removed from the possibles as of yesterday.

I have a few people working on the filipinos, but not sure if they will pan out. I'm really hoping Mr. Helfert can help out with them.

- Steve
If you're checking on the Asians, ask about Chao Fong-Pang, the legendary Taiwanese player who won two World 9-ball championships. I've heard second hand that he was also a superb 14.1 player.
  
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06-13-2010, 11:17 AM

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Sausage, I updated the list after I saw Marop's correction. I did indeed forget Mr. Butera.

Running 100 one-handed is the sickest thing I've ever heard. Dick Leonard has run 100 with his opposite hand, which is just slightly below that on the insane-o-meter lol.
Any idea what Dick Leonard's (aka #### Leonard) high run is opposite handed? Does he have a 200+ run left-handed?

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06-13-2010, 01:52 PM

Im surprised no one has said Tony Annigoni..


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06-13-2010, 02:39 PM

Hi Runout. I'd be shocked if Tony ever ran 200. Back when the book came out and he was really playing, his high run was something like 126. I haven't heard much of him in recent years so if he didn't break 200 back then, I don't know if he'd have much of an opportunity to now.

Actually, how about Billy Aguerro, from the San Francisco area? I played him about a week straight when I was in my early 20s and can't remember winning even a single game. I was visiting a friend out there, and since he had to work during the days, he'd drop me off at Chalkers (I think?) and pick me up when he was done.

I told Billy straight up that I was a decent player, but not great, and that I was looking to lose $20 games all week. He was really cool about it and even though the bet was probably lower than he would have liked, he obliged. I probably lost about $200 in total but had a great time and learned a lot.

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06-13-2010, 02:53 PM

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Bobby's post in the other thread got me thinking that maybe we should start a list, and see what we can come up with. Just add any names you can confirm to the bottom, with a new number, and I'll periodically adjust the alphabetization.

What I have so far is in the first post.

Any name with an asterisk is either because I can't confirm 100% that he has run over 200 or I can't confirm he is still alive.

I also have this list of possibles:

Abruzzo, John
Aguerro, Billy
Altomare, Chuck
Appleton, Darren
Babica, Radoslaw
Bandy, Mike
Boyes, Karl
Bryant, Charlie
Bustamante, Francisco
Carter, Jeff
Chavez, Ignacio
Costa, Ernie
Dunsmore, Bill
Fisher, Pete
Glass, Walter
Hall, Buddy
Heidrich, Dan
Herring, Earl
Jentsch, Dominick
Jungo, Dimitri
Kempter, Martin
Kiamco, Warren
Louie, Dan
Madenjian, Bob
Manalo, Marlon
Marrata, Mike
Mataya, Jimmy
Matushonek, Ed
McNally, Pat
Nacovski, Scotty
Orcullo, Dennis
Pagulayan, Alex
Reid, Jimmy
Reyes, Efren
Ruocco, Tommy
Sambajon, Santos
See, Huidji
Stalev, Evgeny
Stellman, Frank
Stepanov, Konstantin
Tascarella, Pete
Vanover, Tom
Wiggins, Larry


(most recently added:
Chuck Altomare
Billy Aguerro
Tom Vanover
Jimmy Reid
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If anyone can confirm who on this list of possibles definitely has or definitely hasn't run 200, please also chime in.

If anyone can help with the Filipinos, Scandinavians, or Asians, that would be great.

Thanks,
Steve
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Shannon Daulton, and (Kid Delicious) - Danny Basovich


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2019 - In Game - 127
2018 - Practice - 136
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06-13-2010, 03:45 PM

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Hi Runout. I'd be shocked if Tony ever ran 200. Back when the book came out and he was really playing, his high run was something like 126. I haven't heard much of him in recent years so if he didn't break 200 back then, I don't know if he'd have much of an opportunity to now.

Actually, how about Billy Aguerro, from the San Francisco area? I played him about a week straight when I was in my early 20s and can't remember winning even a single game. I was visiting a friend out there, and since he had to work during the days, he'd drop me off at Chalkers (I think?) and pick me up when he was done.

I told Billy straight up that I was a decent player, but not great, and that I was looking to lose $20 games all week. He was really cool about it and even though the bet was probably lower than he would have liked, he obliged. I probably lost about $200 in total but had a great time and learned a lot.

- Steve

I use to play with Billy a lot at Chalkers from 00-03. He would see me playing good and then walk up and tell me to rack em!!! He rarely missed but my time spent with him was great.

Aslo i got to play amazing straight pool with Tobias Ragossing a lot. Apartently Earl was over in Europe and met Tobias and told him abotu pool here in the states and the rest is history.

One day we were playing a game to 150 and he was playing pretty well as was i. He ran 35 i ran 25 right back.. Bunch of great safes and i let him get open and he ran 60 to lead 95 to 25. I ran 46 to bring it up to 95-71. I thought i was toast but to my surprise he plain missed a hanger!!!! Just flat out missed it. New life for me and i had a smooth run of 44 to be up 115-95!! Well after i missed that tough cut in the side and that was that. He calmly ran 55 and out but ill tell you this.. Its one of the best (if not the best) and pleasurable straight pool games i have ever played.



Here's some facts on Tobias:

Tobias Ragossnig, Hawaiian Brian's House Professional will be on hand every Wednesday evening to help you with your game. Play a game of pool with him, get some free tips on improving your play, or learn a new trick shot. Come join the fun!

Some of Tobias' accolades include:

Seven time Vienna Champion, 1988-1996
Winner of the Austrian Grand Prix, 1995
Winner of the Austrian Cup, 1994
Winner of the International Woerthersee Trophy, 1993
Former Captain of the Austrian National Team
Former member of the European Team
Former head trainer for the National Austrian Junior Team
Former professional tour player

BTW Steve this is Jesse.. From Ithaca. You better be at the Empire State Championship this year so i can buy you a beer


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06-14-2010, 07:09 AM

Is George Rood still alive? He definitely has a high run of 200+

A few possibles: Joe Russo, Willie Munson and Ronnie Allen - I know Ronnie wasn't known for his 14.1 game but he was capable of playing it very well when the money was right, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he ran 200 at some point.

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06-14-2010, 03:05 PM

mr lipsky you can cross tom vanover name off the list i spoke to him today his highest run was 146 t u
  
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06-14-2010, 04:24 PM

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mr lipsky you can cross tom vanover name off the list i spoke to him today his highest run was 146 t u

Thank you Richie... I need more people like you helping to confirm with the local players.

Will cross his name off later tonight when I get home.
  
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06-14-2010, 08:38 PM

hey there...

I hope you dont mind if I add my own name to the list...I ran 200+ two times so far...and I am still alive...and I hope I'll stay alive for a long time

that was my first post...but it won't be the last one I'm sure :-)

Tobias Hoiss from germany...
  
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