Transgender's in Women's Pool League
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Who said there was no HC'ing? There are mens and woman's divisions for state tourney tough. Men do not play the ladies.
Masters
Advanced
Open
Standard
these are the break downs.
And woman have the same category. It's set up as woman and mens. Now, the leagues themselves are mixed, but the state tourney is NOT. Men do not play woman in singles, and men can't play on woman's teams. Woman can play on Men's teams, and they could play men's singles, if they wanted. I've never seen a woman on a man's team yet, I'm sure there was I just have not seen it.
The problem is if the woman is rated a Master, she counts as your one master per team rule for teams.
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Make all tournaments EQUAL.
No such thing as "men" or "women" tournaments.
Just "TOURNAMENTS".
Get rid of the handicaps, too.
Winner breaks.
No such thing as "men" or "women" tournaments.
Just "TOURNAMENTS".
Get rid of the handicaps, too.
Winner breaks.
Mick,
The point is -- if women have to work harder to get their rating then they will feel slighted. This will just lead to less woman playing pool, not more.
It's the law of unintended consequences at play.
The point is -- if women have to work harder to get their rating then they will feel slighted. This will just lead to less woman playing pool, not more.
It's the law of unintended consequences at play.
In the post you responded to I posed the question,
Can anyone name an amateur league for women
only that has no handicap and no rules regarding those who are transgender?
To which you responded ACS etc....
Also in my post that you did not quote was the
question, If they are indeed handicapped does
it really matter?
As for men playing with men and women with women,
ACS follows WPA rules which by the WPA constitution
states in section 4.10 that they will prescribe and
adopt rules that do not conflict with the IOC as
published in the Olympic charter.
That would address who is a man and who is a
woman under this rules set.
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And the women would still look the same
Lou, I'm starting to grow a little impatient myself.
I want to see that many break, and more importantly, the secondary breaks all the way to each individual key-to-key ....that leads to the next break.
Jeff >>>>>>> waiting.
JC
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JC
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Fargo isn't about equal footing between genders it's about equal footing between pool players. It doesn't care if you used to be a world beater and got old or if you are an up and coming player. If you're equally matched Fargo recognizes it no matter what the circumstances surrounding your skill level is.
Up here in the western BCA we've been genderless in singles for a couple of years and the system has proven itself beyond reproach at making matches competitive.
I don't know why men and women play in separate leagues/tournaments anyway....its not like pool is a highly athletic game to begin with....it is not a 'sport', but rather a game of skill. A woman can be just as good as a man at this game, and visa versa. IMO gender has nothing to do with pool playing abilities. I mean seriously, how much physical exertions are really required to get up from a spectator chair and then walk around a table & stroke your cue stick at a cue ball?!?
If a disproportionate number of female pros are gay, is that more evidence that masculine genetics are advantageous in pool?
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I thought the original reason for women's leagues, Ladies' nights was to encourage more participation from this segment.
A situation I see all the time is a handful of women show up to tournament, usually like 3-5 while 60 guys show up. A stark comparison to league night, where there are as many women as men.
A situation I see all the time is a handful of women show up to tournament, usually like 3-5 while 60 guys show up. A stark comparison to league night, where there are as many women as men.
I get it, I really do.....but when it comes to trannies playing against players of opposite 'biology', I really wouldn't see where they'd have an advantage.... I just don't see where gender/gender identity would affect your ability to play a game of pool....it's not like hmmm...a bike race, or other sport where physical differences between natural genders would a true factor, your 'identity' be damned......
FWIW, I'm one of those that believe if you're born with a cock & balls, you're a man....I can care less what you 'identify' as, you're a man....but pool would be one of those 'gray areas' where gender/gender identity would be irrelevant.
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It does make a difference. How many times must I bring up Chess. Woman have been playing chess for centuries and they lag far behind males in competition and rankings. And it's just a game with no hand eye coordination necessary, in fact, someone else could move the pieces for you.
Men are more aggressive, and that helps. Don't believe me, ask Allison. She even admitted that when asked why she does not play on the pro mens tourney's. She just says they are wired differently, they go for shots I would never think to go for and would look for a safe, but men, they think they can make the shot and usually do at that level. Sounds like Earl and a bunch of other top players... especially Efren, he just finds the way out and wins.
I"m sure there are experts in this subject that can detail it better.
But, if it were no true, why do these males are claim to be woman, and dominate woman's sports in HS and college. It needs to stop. I like watching the pro woman pool players, and I don't want to see men playing in it at all. If woman want to play in the men's fine, but most of they do not... must be a reason for that.
If the "masculine" "gay" women in pool are better, it may have nothing to do with "genetics".
It may just mean that they "think" they are men, so they have spent more time hanging out where MEN hang out than the "girls" have...in the pool halls
They are hanging with the "boys" at the pool hall instead of staying home and playing with Barbie dolls and doing other "girly-type" stuff.
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Vive le difference
That explained it all...like I said, I do get it. If anything else, I'm playing devil's advocate... I don't think it has much to do with pool.... I think it's the same reason I wouldn't want to watch a 'tranny' cheerleading team...
I agree. Why can't we call it what it really is. If you're an asshole before you transition, you're likely one afterwards. We're not talking about a class of people, just specific people who are abusing it.
If you keep framing it as a class problem (in this case, Transgendered), it helps the specific individual get away with it, since you're unduly blaming a class of people.
If you keep framing it as a class problem (in this case, Transgendered), it helps the specific individual get away with it, since you're unduly blaming a class of people.
JC
Coos Cues
They are advantageous in just about every physical activity other than giving birth.