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Gold Crown 1 casting. - 10-12-2019, 08:26 PM

Was just in Boise, ID a few days ago to deliver a 9ft Diamond ProAm and had a few days of down time before my next job in Pocatello, ID so I had a customer by the name of Mike who'd been trying for quite some time to get me to recover and level his GC1. Well, I was at Pockets billiards and as soon as someone recognized who I was, they called Mike to let him know i was in town. Next thing i know, I'm talking with Mike in person. So, went out to his house to take a look at his table, besides the horrible cloth work done to it, it was out of level, the rails didn't line up with the pocket shelfs, NONE OF THE GC1S DO, and his pocket casting were sticking way up above the formica of the rails, but I agreed to work on his table.

Took the table apart, remounted the slates CENTERED on the frame, marked out where the rail bolt holes through the Brunstone were suppose to be, then drilled the bolt holes to 7/8"ths and centered. Leveled the slates, recovered them with his new Simonis 860HR Tour Blue cloth he's had waiting for the day I'd work on his table, with fingers crossed...LOL

Then, I suprised Mike by installing pocket casting leveling system in the ends of the rails so I could flush mount the pockets, then recovered the rails and put the table back together again, but in reassembling the ball box, I also converted the mounting of the ball box from wood screws to 1/4"◊20◊3" machine screws and threaded inserts mounted into the frame.

I didn't take pictures as it's pretty much old news to me, but I did take some pictures of how flush the castings sit so it proves the casting can be almost flush mounted, why they're not is on the mechanics you hire.

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10-12-2019, 08:38 PM

^ Looks very nice indeed. I wasn't aware the castings are usually too high on GC1's, but I'm new to all this. I will have to make sure when time comes, to mention this and make certain my mechanic gets them looking like how you got them on this table.
  
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10-12-2019, 10:22 PM

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10-13-2019, 12:10 AM

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10-13-2019, 02:33 AM

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10-13-2019, 05:33 AM

Those are really nice castings.

Are they available to purchase?

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10-13-2019, 05:40 AM

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Was just in Boise, ID a few days ago to deliver a 9ft Diamond ProAm and had a few days of down time before my next job in Pocatello, ID so I had a customer by the name of Mike who'd been trying for quite some time to get me to recover and level his GC1. Well, I was at Pockets billiards and as soon as someone recognized who I was, they called Mike to let him know i was in town. Next thing i know, I'm talking with Mike in person. So, went out to his house to take a look at his table, besides the horrible cloth work done to it, it was out of level, the rails didn't line up with the pocket shelfs, NONE OF THE GC1S DO, and his pocket casting were sticking way up above the formica of the rails, but I agreed to work on his table.

Took the table apart, remounted the slates CENTERED on the frame, marked out where the rail bolt holes through the Brunstone were suppose to be, then drilled the bolt holes to 7/8"ths and centered. Leveled the slates, recovered them with his new Simonis 860HR Tour Blue cloth he's had waiting for the day I'd work on his table, with fingers crossed...LOL

Then, I suprised Mike by installing pocket casting leveling system in the ends of the rails so I could flush mount the pockets, then recovered the rails and put the table back together again, but in reassembling the ball box, I also converted the mounting of the ball box from wood screws to 1/4"◊20◊3" machine screws and threaded inserts mounted into the frame.

I didn't take pictures as it's pretty much old news to me, but I did take some pictures of how flush the castings sit so it proves the casting can be almost flush mounted, why they're not is on the mechanics you hire.

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10-13-2019, 06:54 AM

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Those are really nice castings.

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10-13-2019, 07:07 AM

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Then, I suprised Mike by installing pocket casting leveling system in the ends of the rails so I could flush mount the pockets,

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but I did take some pictures of how flush the castings sit so it proves the casting can be almost flush mounted, why they're not is on the mechanics you hire.
Can you mount the castings flush like that without the "pocket casting leveling system"? I actually just learned that such a thing existed! ha! Mine stick up a bit, but over the many decades of playing on GC1/2's I never saw one that did have flush pocket castings - EXCEPT the one in this thread! holy smokes!

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Can you mount the castings flush like that without the "pocket casting leveling system"? I actually just learned that such a thing existed! ha! Mine stick up a bit, but over the many decades of playing on GC1/2's I never saw one that did have flush pocket castings - EXCEPT the one in this thread! holy smokes!

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No, because you have to be able to adjust how the front and back of the castings sit in relation to the formica finish of the rails. The adjustment dont change even when you take the rails apart, recover them, then put the rails back together again. What other mechanics try and do if anything is shim the castings, which falls out everytime the rails are taken apart, then have to be shimmed again.
  
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10-13-2019, 07:18 AM

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10-13-2019, 07:48 AM

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Factory original, just buffed to a shine, then flush mounted with my system of casting adjustments.
Damn, that is some fine work there!
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10-13-2019, 08:13 AM

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No, because you have to be able to adjust how the front and back of the castings sit in relation to the formica finish of the rails. The adjustment dont change even when you take the rails apart, recover them, then put the rails back together again. What other mechanics try and do if anything is shim the castings, which falls out everytime the rails are taken apart, then have to be shimmed again.
I have a GC II. I assume the correct fot is flush to the trim and consistently slightly over flush to the formica?

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