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10-26-2019, 04:59 PM

He looks like 100 guys from that era , but I don't think he was a top player. I agree that it isn't Jimmy Reid or Toby Sweet,, my first thought was Matlock , same nose, but I don't think so .

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10-27-2019, 11:01 AM

Iím not giving up on this yet....somebody has to know him.

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10-27-2019, 12:21 PM

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He looks like 100 guys from that era , but I don't think he was a top player. I agree that it isn't Jimmy Reid or Toby Sweet,, my first thought was Matlock , same nose, but I don't think so .
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10-27-2019, 07:18 PM

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I’m not giving up on this yet....somebody has to know him.

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I swear he looks familiar to me, one of the local hustlers who used to be all over Ohio and Indiana back in the day. I never knew all their names. There must have been over a hundred shortstop level players running around the Midwest, gambling in bars and poolrooms back in the 60's and 70's. There was action everywhere back then! And a decent player could grind out a living if he was careful.

For all I know I may have played this guy myself. In a ten year period I gambled with hundreds of different guys, rarely ever turning down a game. I've had guys come up to me at tournaments years later and tell me about a game we played. They remembered where and when and how much we played for. Most of the time I didn't remember them or the game. I may have just remembered being in that town and playing a couple of people. I did remember the guys who beat me though!

P.S. I was nothing like Dean who posts on here. He would lay down and make sure he had a good game before showing any speed. He was much smarter than me! I wanted to play every day. And I'd just walk in, go right to the counter and ask if there was anyone who wanted to play. I got games quick that way!

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10-27-2019, 07:49 PM

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he obviously won the tournament.
You'd think so but everyone out there believes he is a complete unknown who just made up A Frame for himself. It's the leading theory at the moment. If he was a champion, he would have been id'd long ago. JMHO;

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10-27-2019, 08:31 PM

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You'd think so but everyone out there believes he is a complete unknown who just made up A Frame for himself. It's the leading theory at the moment. If he was a champion, he would have been id'd long ago. JMHO;

Plus the word winner/champion is missing from the frame plaque.
There were a lot of good players back then...a road player could go broke to an unknown.
I mentioned a few years ago about Dave Charette....he lost to Mike Carella in a finals at
Farhatís Velvet Rail in Lansing....beat a bunch of champions to get there.
When I asked what he was doing, nobody knew him.

I know Iíve seen this guy....itís the way he holds his head over the cue.


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10-28-2019, 12:14 AM

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You'd think so but everyone out there believes he is a complete unknown who just made up A Frame for himself. It's the leading theory at the moment. If he was a champion, he would have been id'd long ago. JMHO;

Plus the word winner/champion is missing from the frame plaque.
Complete unknown might not be accurate.
He could be a really great player , who never left his home base, there are a lot of them out there.
Lots of real good players came through Columbus Ohio and didn't know Kenny McCoy was, waiting for them to play some 5 dollar nine ball, and end their careers.
I watched half a dozen up and coming road players get beat so bad , they left town knowing they were in the wrong business.
  
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10-28-2019, 01:59 AM

even world beaters like tom jennings. he looked like that pic but had more curly hair.
few around could identify him and he was one of the best in history straight pool players.
  
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10-28-2019, 08:55 AM

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Complete unknown might not be accurate.
He could be a really great player , who never left his home base, there are a lot of them out there.
Lots of real good players came through Columbus Ohio and didn't know Kenny McCoy was, waiting for them to play some 5 dollar nine ball, and end their careers.
I watched half a dozen up and coming road players get beat so bad , they left town knowing they were in the wrong business.
First time Jim Rempe came through Ohio he played Kenny to a draw. He told me later that was the best player he had ever played.


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10-28-2019, 09:00 AM

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Complete unknown might not be accurate.
He could be a really great player , who never left his home base, there are a lot of them out there.
Lots of real good players came through Columbus Ohio and didn't know Kenny McCoy was, waiting for them to play some 5 dollar nine ball, and end their careers.
I watched half a dozen up and coming road players get beat so bad , they left town knowing they were in the wrong business.
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First time Jim Rempe came through Ohio he played Kenny to a draw. He told me later that was the best player he had ever played.
Call the man by his right name, youse guys...
...the word on the road was beware of THE TRUCKDRIVER in Columbus....


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10-28-2019, 09:02 AM

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Call the man by his right name, youse guys...
...the word on the road was beware of THE TRUCKDRIVER in Columbus....
Ha Ha, you're right. Kenny "The Trucker" McCoy.


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I don't recognize the player but I recognize the watch. Its a Pulsar P-2. I still have mine and it keeps perfect time.
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Ha Ha, you're right. Kenny "The Trucker" McCoy.
Wonder if he was related to Willie McCoy. The country boy out of south Alabama who everyone called "Slim".


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anyone guess Tony Howard?
Good eye...thatís indeed one eyed Tony Howard from KY


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Good eye...that’s indeed one eyed Tony Howard from KY
I struggled over that one. I knew "One Eyed" Tony and he was a really good player. He looks younger there than when I remember him. I think he died at about age 40 or so in a car accident. The best one eyed pool player I'd ever known up to that point. Later on there was Andy Scott, Tom Brown and Niels (?). Tony could really cut those balls thin.

I know there was some other good one eyed players. Who remembers them?


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