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1940s Brunswick Wedge Cue ID??? Any info good - 11-06-2019, 04:43 PM

I just picked this up and was hoping for more info. The person I bought it from said it was made in the 40's and that Tony Conte owned it from Chicago. Does this look like that time period? Any one know Tom? It's straight and in pretty good shape. Actually plays REALLY nice. Thanks for the help.
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11-06-2019, 05:32 PM

That's a lovely cue, don't know anything about it, except I'd like to possibly buy it, if you sell down the line that is.
  
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11-06-2019, 06:01 PM

To me a couple things look incorrect but let the experts decide.


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11-06-2019, 06:37 PM

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To me a couple things look incorrect but let the experts decide.
Looks like after-market pin....and grip is covering part of the wedge.


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11-06-2019, 06:52 PM

It's certainly a nice cue I've seen the model but only in ebony butt and ebony spliced shaft , you can dig up the history and find a time line for the 26 1/2 cues ,,


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11-06-2019, 06:56 PM

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Looks like after-market pin....and grip is covering part of the wedge.
Yes I noticed that and also where the wrap ends up on the points which I love I'm wondering if that's a full splice converted cue , I'd love to cut that wrap off

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11-06-2019, 07:06 PM

That looks to be a special cue for sure. I am no expert but I would guess it is older then the 40's.

Maybe the wrap was added later and many wraps would drop below the point of the wedge. The bumper is almost certainly not original to the cue. Very possible that a 26.5 was cut and the joint was added, that might explain the newish looking pin.

It is odd that the top of the wedge is so apparent under the wrap, maybe it had raised a bit. The shaft has a black collar but not one on the cue to match.

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11-06-2019, 09:02 PM

It was really common for the wedge to go under the wrap. I had 2 that did that. I guess with the leather you can see the indentation more.


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11-07-2019, 10:02 AM

Definitely not 1940s.

The mother of pearl wedge option was gone from the catalogs before that and yes it was very common to see wraps go over the wedge, whether they were twine, leather, silk, etc.

A pin like that is also shown in the 1928 BBC catalog.

I would say it is most likely 1920s to early 30s.
  
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11-07-2019, 10:16 AM

Early 1930s cue
Wraps commonly covered the wedge on these .
Pin is absolutely original. Pins were put in shafts and butts until 1940s when they stayed in the butt of the cues.
This is not a conversion cue.

Model 26.5 cue.
The black veneers at the outermost veneer is nice, defines the points well.

Titlists didn't come about to the mid 1940s.

This is a players cue...love to know the stories it could tell.

Here's one I had years ago with similar pin in butt though. Cue was 1910 to 1920. Custom cue made by European Craftsmen who immigrated to America. Brunswick had very advanced cuemskers in France in the late 1800/early 1900s.

Cues like this were pre industrialization of cuemaking.
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11-07-2019, 10:16 AM

Can I buy this one before you have it cut up?

I'm still physically ill about that cue with the celluloid joint


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11-07-2019, 11:03 AM

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Can I buy this one before you have it cut up?

I'm still physically ill about that cue with the celluloid joint
You're right and I'm not going to cut it.


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11-07-2019, 11:05 AM

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Early 1930s cue
Wraps commonly covered the wedge on these .
Pin is absolutely original. Pins were put in shafts and butts until 1940s when they stayed in the butt of the cues.
This is not a conversion cue.

Model 26.5 cue.
The black veneers at the outermost veneer is nice, defines the points well.

Titlists didn't come about to the mid 1940s.

This is a players cue...love to know the stories it could tell.

Here's one I had years ago with similar pin in butt though. Cue was 1910 to 1920. Custom cue made by European Craftsmen who immigrated to America. Brunswick had very advanced cuemskers in France in the late 1800/early 1900s.

Cues like this were pre industrialization of cuemaking.
Wow fantastic cue! Thank you for all the great info. This cue plays great. The shaft is straight too. Was it common to have the ebony/maple shaft?


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11-07-2019, 11:09 AM

I'm not going to mess with this cue at all BUT I'd love to have another shaft made for it. Is this a pin cuemakers can find these days? Should I play with it?


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11-07-2019, 01:45 PM

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I'm not going to mess with this cue at all BUT I'd love to have another shaft made for it. Is this a pin cuemakers can find these days? Should I play with it?
Play with it? Certainly. I play with nearly all of my vintage cues, the Ebony shaft might deflect like a MOFO.


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