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9-Ball ghost challenge on my new Diamond 9 footer - 11-13-2019, 08:33 PM

Beat the ghost today on my mew 9 foot Diamond table 8-1 in the 9-Ball ghost challenge ball in hand after break.

Payed on my new 9 foot Diamond table with pro cut pockets just like the tables in the US Open 9-Ball tournaments. This was the 2nd time playing on this table and it seems way, way too easy. Prior to that I played on my modified 10 foot Brunswick for 2 years and the most racks I've run out consecutively, withe ball in hand after the break, was 5 racks. Tonight I ran 8 out of 9 racks. It just doesn't seem right for this pro table to be that much easier than my 10 foot Brunswick. After my 8 out of 9 rack run I googled the playing surface of a 9 foot Diamond and it's 50x100 inches, spot on with my table. Was my 1p footer that much harder? Tim Tonjum told me that after the cloth breaks in the pockets will play tougher. I sure hope so because this is way too easy and now I'm regreating not ordering the table with smaller pockets. Anyway, time will tell. Here is the video of my 8 out of 9 rack run.


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11-13-2019, 08:43 PM

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Beat the ghost today on my mew 9 foot Diamond table 8-1 in the 9-Ball ghost challenge ball in hand after break.

Payed on my new 9 foot Diamond table with pro cut pockets just like the tables in the US Open 9-Ball tournaments. This was the 2nd time playing on this table and it seems way, way too easy. Prior to that I played on my modified 10 foot Brunswick for 2 years and the most racks I've run out consecutively, withe ball in hand after the break, was 5 racks. Tonight I ran 8 out of 9 racks. It just doesn't seem right for this pro table to be that much easier than my 10 foot Brunswick. After my 8 out of 9 rack run I googled the playing surface of a 9 foot Diamond and it's 50x100 inches, spot on with my table. Was my 1p footer that much harder? Tim Tonjum told me that after the cloth breaks in the pockets will play tougher. I sure hope so because this is way too easy and now I'm regreating not ordering the table with smaller pockets. Anyway, time will tell. Here is the video of my 8 out of 9 rack run.


https://youtu.be/Ofvnv3fae4o
You are a hell of a shot! Congrats on the new table. Your table may turn into areal beotch as the cloth matures, at your level of play it might not be a big deal. As your eyes age and your stroke falters the Diamond may play about right

All joking aside nice shooting and great table.


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11-13-2019, 08:44 PM

Which is why 4.5" pockets on new cloth for Shane and these world beaters is a joke.

I will say my Diamond table played tougher after a good while.
  
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11-13-2019, 08:59 PM

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Beat the ghost today on my mew 9 foot Diamond table 8-1 in the 9-Ball ghost challenge ball in hand after break.

Payed on my new 9 foot Diamond table with pro cut pockets just like the tables in the US Open 9-Ball tournaments. This was the 2nd time playing on this table and it seems way, way too easy. Prior to that I played on my modified 10 foot Brunswick for 2 years and the most racks I've run out consecutively, withe ball in hand after the break, was 5 racks. Tonight I ran 8 out of 9 racks. It just doesn't seem right for this pro table to be that much easier than my 10 foot Brunswick. After my 8 out of 9 rack run I googled the playing surface of a 9 foot Diamond and it's 50x100 inches, spot on with my table. Was my 1p footer that much harder? Tim Tonjum told me that after the cloth breaks in the pockets will play tougher. I sure hope so because this is way too easy and now I'm regreating not ordering the table with smaller pockets. Anyway, time will tell. Here is the video of my 8 out of 9 rack run.


https://youtu.be/Ofvnv3fae4o
I experienced the very same thing when I first got my diamond.

My table plays a little tougher with older cloth but, it's not enough to make a big difference.

Do what I do:

Play American Rotation.....AR has a way of making those pockets play smaller.

Also, play 10 ball like this:

Rack 10 ball, break, spot any ball made. Then, put the 11 ball at center of foot rail and the 12 ball at center of head rail. Take ball in hand (in kitchen) and play the ghost from there.

Like AR, it will make the 4.5" play a little tougher.

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11-13-2019, 09:01 PM

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You are a hell of a shot! Congrats on the new table. Your table may turn into areal beotch as the cloth matures, at your level of play it might not be a big deal. As your eyes age and your stroke falters the Diamond may play about right

All joking aside nice shooting and great table.
Thanks cuebuddy. I hope it turns soon so I don't want to take my shot making ability for granted.

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11-13-2019, 09:04 PM

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I experienced the very same thing when I first got my diamond.

My table plays a little tougher with older cloth but, it's not enough to make a big difference.

Do what I do:

Play American Rotation.....AR has a way of making those pockets play smaller.

Also, play 10 ball like this:

Rack 10 ball, break, spot any ball made. Then, put the 11 ball at center of foot rail and the 12 ball at center of head rail. Take ball in hand (in kitchen) and play the ghost from there.

Like AR, it will make the 4.5" play a little tougher.

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Jeff, I will give that a try. Sounds like a good challenge.
  
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11-13-2019, 09:12 PM

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Which is why 4.5" pockets on new cloth for Shane and these world beaters is a joke.

I will say my Diamond table played tougher after a good while.
4.5" + new cloth + new balls = an easy table for anyone that can make a ball.

Yeah, those conditions are easy but, even with those conditions, no ball in hand can make a big difference and END most runs after just a few racks.

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The ghost is one thing but, lol....playing someone like Shane will make those pockets shrink EVERY TIME.

At least they do for me.

Those 4.5" pockets seem to player tougher when you got a beast waiting for you to slip-up and shoot a weak safe...

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11-13-2019, 09:16 PM

Gonna see if I can put up a century run in the 14-1 challenge b4 the new year.
  
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11-13-2019, 09:19 PM

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Jeff, I will give that a try. Sounds like a good challenge.
Yep.

Not to brag but, as you are seeing, the 9 ball ghost just isn't any competition with BIH. It's fun but, to challenge yourself, you'll have to play AR or at least play 10 ball with extra balls on table.

BTW, (when I'm healthy) I sometimes get froggy and play the pro ghost at 10 ball.

I've only beat the pro 10 ball ghost a couple times out of hundreds of trys. BIH makes a huge difference at my house.

Without BIH, lol.....the 10 ball ghost is a beast.

Also, a wooden rack changes things up a bit on the break.

I look forward to watching you wear that table out.

I wished we lived close to each other.

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11-13-2019, 09:23 PM

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Gonna see if I can put up a century run in the 14-1 challenge b4 the new year.
Heck yeah!!!

New felt and 4.5 pockets is the very best time to set a high run.

Do it before that rascally rabbit tightens up a little.

Good shooting sir..

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11-13-2019, 09:32 PM

Did they use the circle things for racking at US Open.
I didn't get a chance to watch, so I truly don't know.

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Beat the ghost today on my mew 9 foot Diamond table 8-1 in the 9-Ball ghost challenge ball in hand after break.

Payed on my new 9 foot Diamond table with pro cut pockets just like the tables in the US Open 9-Ball tournaments. This was the 2nd time playing on this table and it seems way, way too easy. Prior to that I played on my modified 10 foot Brunswick for 2 years and the most racks I've run out consecutively, withe ball in hand after the break, was 5 racks. Tonight I ran 8 out of 9 racks. It just doesn't seem right for this pro table to be that much easier than my 10 foot Brunswick. After my 8 out of 9 rack run I googled the playing surface of a 9 foot Diamond and it's 50x100 inches, spot on with my table. Was my 1p footer that much harder? Tim Tonjum told me that after the cloth breaks in the pockets will play tougher. I sure hope so because this is way too easy and now I'm regreating not ordering the table with smaller pockets. Anyway, time will tell. Here is the video of my 8 out of 9 rack run.


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11-13-2019, 09:52 PM

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Beat the ghost today on my mew 9 foot Diamond table 8-1 in the 9-Ball ghost challenge ball in hand after break.

Payed on my new 9 foot Diamond table with pro cut pockets just like the tables in the US Open 9-Ball tournaments. This was the 2nd time playing on this table and it seems way, way too easy. Prior to that I played on my modified 10 foot Brunswick for 2 years and the most racks I've run out consecutively, withe ball in hand after the break, was 5 racks. Tonight I ran 8 out of 9 racks. It just doesn't seem right for this pro table to be that much easier than my 10 foot Brunswick. After my 8 out of 9 rack run I googled the playing surface of a 9 foot Diamond and it's 50x100 inches, spot on with my table. Was my 1p footer that much harder? Tim Tonjum told me that after the cloth breaks in the pockets will play tougher. I sure hope so because this is way too easy and now I'm regreating not ordering the table with smaller pockets. Anyway, time will tell. Here is the video of my 8 out of 9 rack run.


https://youtu.be/Ofvnv3fae4o
Nice shooting. Helps to make 2 or 3 balls every break too.

I'm curious about the slate depth (shelf) of the corner pockets. I've seen a lot of "pro cut" tables that have shorter pocket shelves than other diamonds. I've seen the 7ft diamond barboxes with the exact same deep corners as a good 9ft table, then go to another place and see a room of 7ft diamond barboxes with only 1 inch corner shelves, very easy to play. Not sure if there's a standard spec on that from Diamond.


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11-14-2019, 03:35 AM

As many have said, give it a few months and it will start playing tougher when the cloth ages a bit.

If you want to make it tougher now, ditch the racking template (spots) and use a wooden rack. I guarantee you will have tougher outs.


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Nice shooting. Helps to make 2 or 3 balls every break too.

I'm curious about the slate depth (shelf) of the corner pockets. I've seen a lot of "pro cut" tables that have shorter pocket shelves than other diamonds. I've seen the 7ft diamond barboxes with the exact same deep corners as a good 9ft table, then go to another place and see a room of 7ft diamond barboxes with only 1 inch corner shelves, very easy to play. Not sure if there's a standard spec on that from Diamond.
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